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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #126 on: Thursday 07 June 18 04:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Belle. Perhaps the neighbour did'nt know George all that well, I'm still going with 1828. ;D
I think you mentioned a German ancestor on your mothers side, was he Hermann Bollmann?

Looks like it's the 1828 one we need to go with, I know. My great grandfather on my mum's side is Hermann Bollmann. I have his death certificate and place of birth, - Bremerhaven, Germany, and only his father's surname, Bollmann and profession, roper maker, are on it. I would like to trace Hermann's parents etc if I can.

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #127 on: Thursday 07 June 18 04:05 BST (UK) »
I agree with you, but I'd like to find a record of our George's birth date in a document in Australia to be absolutely sure we have the right one. I can't find a record of it anywhere and now I'm trying to find historical publican licences to see if it's recorded on his licences, but I'm not having much luck.

I've just found a note about Martha Augusta attached to the back of the information my distant cousin wrote about her and this may explain why we've had no luck finding her birth record. I quote from the note:

"In a hand written document found amongst personal papers after the death of Gladys Ruby Locke daughter of Walter Randall, (brother of Martha Augusta) it lists the birth dates of the children of George Randall and Ellen Janeway. Although some of the dates are not correct with the actual day, they are, on the whole, fairly accurate and in my opinion can serve as a guide where no details survived. It states that Martha Augusta Randall was born in Adelaide 21 August 1857. This year seems unlikely when you compare details on later documents (wedding, death certificates). It's more likely to have been 1851, particularly in light of the fact that no record of the birth is available from the pioneer index of South Australia. I was told that there had been a fire and some records from the Mt Barker area had been destroyed. This may account for the fact that no record for either Martha Augusta or her sister Ellen appears."

So it seems that some of the dates of the births of George and Ellen's children that my cousin has recorded have been taken from my Aunty Glady's notes.

Annie, this may be the reason why we can't find Martha's birth record  :)

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #128 on: Thursday 07 June 18 04:09 BST (UK) »
There's a George born to a George & Martha Augusta at Tower Hamlets, London (UK) who could fit but the fathers' job was a Bricklayer i.e. would he have changed occ. from Bricklayer to Hairdresser  :-\

I wonder if leaving forename out may bring up something &/or could Martha have been illegitimate & mothers m/s  :-\ Anything is worth chasing.

Annie

Add, I used a large window in my search 1850 +/- 10
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #129 on: Thursday 07 June 18 04:17 BST (UK) »
 ???  ???
Ann Randall
30 Jan 1855
South Australia
Registration Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Father George Randall
Mother Helen Janeway
Page Number 95
Volume Number 5

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #130 on: Thursday 07 June 18 06:24 BST (UK) »
Hi  Belle, The reason why I did'nt mention the Tasmania birth before was we already have Martha's marriage with George as her father. A remote possibility is that George had an affair with this Bishop woman and had 1 child which they named Martha Augusta who died at or just after birth. ;D

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #131 on: Thursday 07 June 18 06:31 BST (UK) »
Nothing would surprise me - re George having an affair  :o

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #132 on: Thursday 07 June 18 06:44 BST (UK) »
Hermann Bollmann. born 5 Nov 1844 • Lesum, Hannover, Lower Saxony, Germany
Father  Johann Bollmann.  Mother  Metta Wismer.
Hermann was a sailor.
Bremen, Germany Ships Crew Lists, 1815-1917
Name    Hermann Bollmann
Birth    Grohn 1844
Military    22/Okt/1863


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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #133 on: Thursday 07 June 18 06:46 BST (UK) »
Blimey that's awesome! He was a sailor, and we still have a large china bowl and his feather pillow he brought out from Germany with him. Thank you so much, you're a genius!  ;D

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #134 on: Thursday 07 June 18 06:48 BST (UK) »
That's funny (as in hilarious), I didn't actually write Blimey - I wrote something else but it wasn't swearing  :)