Missing death index and certificate [Brickwall]

[elliesboys]

Hi there! Dorothy is my Great grandmother and I have been lead to believe James was my Great grandfather!!

[Tickettyboo]

Welcome to Rootschat elliesboys.

This is a 'very' long thread, if you want to search it for mentions of James, click on "Print' on the line above the thread on this page (far right) and it will open all the posts in one file in text format. If you use windows press CTRL and F and it will allow you to search for all mentions of James.( On Mac its CMD and F).

That may help.

Boo

[JenB]

Hello elliesboys  As mentioned in the previous posting this is a long and complex thread, which began with the search for Giovanni Battista, James's father.

James Battista and Dorothy Playford married in 1922.

What is your line of descent from Dorothy? Have you actually seen a birth certificate for one of your grandparents showing them to be born to James and Dorothy?

[elliesboys]

Dorothy was my dads grandmother so we have all her bits. I think on my grandads birth certificate it doesn’t have his father named. I will go around to my parents this weekend to get all the bits and the right information. 

[elliesboys]

Hi Boo,
Thanks very much for the tip how to print the whole thing out!!

Were just amazed this could be all be about our family. 

[JenB]

Elliesboys,

Before coming to any conclusions it will be important to know the date of your grandfather's birth, and all the details given on his birth certificate. Please only post information about your grandfather if he is now deceased.

It will be interesting to know all the details if your parents have a copy of the Dorothy Playford/James Battista marriage certificate.

It appears from this press report that James and Dorothy split up two months after their marriage http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nm9/

Let us know what information you are able to unearth 

[elliesboys]

I know you right!

My Grandad (John George) was born in 1920. As My great Grandmother (Dorothy) was to young to marry and also not aloud they had to wait until she was 21. My parents do have all birth, marriage and death certificates.

[JenB]

Thinking back, if the James Battista we are talking about is the one in the article I posted about on here page 40 post 353 - he was then using the alias of George Marshall + one other unspecified name.

It's certainly a possibility that it was the same James!

Berks and Oxon Advertiser - 16 November 1928

'DEFENDANT WHO "GAVE HIMSELF AWAY."
SMART WORK BY P.C. MORTIMORE

A man whose name and address were given as George Marshall, of 28 Steven Street, Reading, was charged with riding a bicycle without a light on September 27th.  He pleaded guilty and P.C. Mortimer went to Reading and found the defendant in a common lodging house, using another name, and it had been found that his correct name was James Battista.  The defendant had given the police a lot of trouble.
In a statement the defendant said he was using his mother's name.
P.C. Mortimore added that the defendant at Reading first denied all knowledge of the offence.  The witness then asked why he had not returned from a Turners Court man.  The defendant replied that the man was coming to Reading for it.
Mr. Rich: He gave himself away
A fine of 10s. was imposed and the defendant apologized for the trouble he had given.'

This has to be the same James Battista.

We know from this posting https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=793871.msg6709450#msg6709450that he was sent to the Wallingford Farm Training Colony in 1926.

Wallingford is only some 12 miles from Reading, and the Training Colony was also known as Turner's Court https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Oxfordshire_Colony.html?id=kgpUi9t9ALoC&redir_esc=y

[elliesboys]

Just remembered to say my grandad (John George) also went to the Wellesley Training Ship from a very young age. We have there records to prove he was visited by the Battista Family.