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Offline Bardany

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Shooting in Carrick Hill in September 1920
« on: Thursday 10 May 18 16:05 BST (UK) »
I have been contacted by relatives in Ottawa Canada whose Great Grandfather John(Jack) O'Brien was shot and died on 3rd September 1920 in Carrick Hill. Any information about the circumstances would be appreciated.

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Re: Shooting in Carrick Hill in September 1920
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 May 18 16:19 BST (UK) »
Was he aged 45 and lived at Kildare Street?

Noted as shot at corner of Park Street and Kildare Street on 1st September, died at Royal Hospital.

Mentioned in a few papers of timescale.
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Re: Shooting in Carrick Hill in September 1920
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 May 18 16:22 BST (UK) »
There is a news article in -

The Scotsman 04 September 1920
John O'Brien, Kildare Street, was one of three casualties in the Belfast Riots.

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Re: Shooting in Carrick Hill in September 1920
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 May 18 16:29 BST (UK) »
Death cert gives the date as the 1st
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05119/4408106.pdf
shot during a riot, there was an inquest

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Re: Shooting in Carrick Hill in September 1920
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 May 18 16:35 BST (UK) »
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and John O’Brien (45), 9, Kildare Street- The deaths now total 31. The City Coroner (Dr. James Graham) has arranged open the inquests on the riot victims Tuesday next, 11 o’clock, in the Recorder’s Court 

an example fom the Belfast Newsletter.

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  The inquest on the victims of the recent rioting in Belfast was opened by the City Coroner ,( Dr James Graham); in the Old Recorder’s Court yesterday. ...
Published: Wednesday 08 September 1920   

Plenty of articles about the general situation surrounding the riots/inquest can be viewed via British Newspaper Archive or FindMyPast (either by purchase of credits or subscription).
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Re: Shooting in Carrick Hill in September 1920
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 May 18 16:42 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to everyone who replied. I will pass the information on to my friends in Canada. I think is what they needed. Many thanks again.
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Re: Shooting in Carrick Hill in September 1920
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 May 18 16:43 BST (UK) »
There is several deaths from the riot on that death cert page

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Re: Shooting in Carrick Hill in September 1920
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 July 19 01:01 BST (UK) »
John O'Brien (jack) was my husband's great grandfather too.  I was just talking about him this evening with my father in law, Paddy O'Brien, he is the grandson of John (jack).  His dad Pat was just a few weeks old when his father was killed in 1920.  The funeral was in St Patrick's chapel in Donegall Street.  He left behind his widow Sarah and children Sarah, Margaret, John and a few more.  Names available in census.ie
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