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Re: Looking for Origins of my family history - Pyefinch
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 10:33 BST (UK) »
You're right, seems I am a generation out and a bit of an idiot, so it was Albert Victor! (The son in the English census) 

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Re: Looking for Origins of my family history - Pyefinch
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 10:34 BST (UK) »
You're right, seems I am a generation out and a bit of an idiot, so it was Albert!

Albert was the brother of Frederick William.  Both were sons of Frederick Charles.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Origins of my family history - Pyefinch
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 10:36 BST (UK) »
Perhaps I am misunderstanding you.  It doesn’t help that they kept using the names Albert and Frederick!
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Origins of my family history - Pyefinch
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 10:36 BST (UK) »
I see, so Albert was not the son?

It's okay though it doesn't matter terribly - I'm on the right track! Ignoring that I don't know, how do I go back further given the information from before?


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Re: Looking for Origins of my family history - Pyefinch
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 10:36 BST (UK) »
Well, if it ain't broke...


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Re: Looking for Origins of my family history - Pyefinch
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 10:37 BST (UK) »
Albert Frederic was the son of

Frederick William, one of the sons of

Frederick Charles.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Origins of my family history - Pyefinch
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 10:39 BST (UK) »
A good christian family I'm sure  :D

This is the right family however, that much we know!

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Re: Looking for Origins of my family history - Pyefinch
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 10:40 BST (UK) »
I had always believed that they were Danish immigrants (given the Pye/Pie) but have now found they're in fact English!

I wonder why the spelling changed, or perhaps if maybe illiteracy was more common before :S

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Re: Looking for Origins of my family history - Pyefinch
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 01 May 18 10:43 BST (UK) »
Spelling variances are extremely common in 19thC (and earlier) records.  It’s only when the general level of education rose that people settled on a definitive spelling for their names.  Even in educated families you will often find people switching between variant names (e.g. Eleanor in one census becomes Helena in the next) or (as you have already discovered) Frederick Charles is Charles in one census and Frederick in the next.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)