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Re: Whiteford and Kane
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 05:23 GMT (UK) »
I was delighted to find this site by Googling, and hope it will help me with one of my stickiest genealogy problems, involving a potential Whiteford ancestor.

I'm looking for information about my maternal ancestry line, the Ginn family of County Antrim, Northern Ireland, possibly from the Ballynure Parish area, and it may involve a Whiteford 2nd great-grandmother.

According to my family's oral history, my second great-grandfather was George Ginn born around 1810. His first wife, name unknown, died not long therafter, leaving him with a 5 yr. old boy, my great-grandfather William Ginn (1833-1895). George Ginn remarried and emigrated to Australia, never to be heard from again. Son William was left in care of a family by the name of Whiteford, and a Hugh Whiteford brought him to America at the age of 8 (around 1841). They settled in the town of DeKalb in St. Lawrence County, New York and William lived with the Whiteford family and also with a family named Jenkins until he married Finetta Burton, from England, in 1857 and founded a robust dynasty of Ginns.

The Whiteford family who raised my great-grandfather is known to be from the Ballynure vicinity, as was the Jenkins family. There apparently was a history of families from the immediate Ballynure environs emigrating to the same area of St. Lawrence County, New York, particularly the DeKalb/Kendrew Corners/Rensselaer Falls area. In addition to Whiteford and Jenkins, other family names apparently in this migration were Clements, Kirk, Ballantine, Dollar, Scott, McAllister, McAdoo, Moore, McCullough, and Weatherup. However, I have not found any other references to Ginn families from this area.

I am almost convinced that that George Ginn's first wife may have been a Whiteford, but I have no direct nformation to support this supposition, other than the fact that he was raised by a family of that name. However, my DNA matches for from Ancestry.com include quite a number of distant relatives with Whiteford ancesrors, with several  traceable to Hugh Whiteford.

I posted a query on an Irish genealogy board and was informed that "Ginn" there was likely to be shortened from McGinn, and my DNA admixture shows me to considerably more Scottish and less Irish than I suspected.  Then there's the fact of my 2nd GGF migrating to Australia, which apparently he had in common with some other Whitefords.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Gary Stevens, San Francisco, California

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Re: Whiteford and Kane
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Do you know the name of Hugh Whiteford's wife? perhaps the Whitford connection comes in through marriage rather than blood.
Have you done DNA yet? in addition to finding possible connections there's also a Ballycarry DNA project through FTDNA-
https://www.larnetimes.co.uk/news/people/world-stage-potential-ballycarry-family-history-dna-project-925712
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Whiteford and Kane
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 08 December 20 15:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the quick reply!

As I mentioned in my query, I have done DNA testing through Ancestry.com.  Hugh Whiteford's wife was an Elizabeth Sloan, and I can find no Sloan conneticoms. I also think my connection may be a generatiom more remote, possibly through Hugh's mother, but alas I do not have her maiden name. Hugh Whiteford's forebears did, in fact hail from Kilbirnie in Scotland, and further back there are Houston and Kerr females.

Thanks for the Ballycarry Project tip. I'll check it out.

Gary

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Re: Whiteford and Kane
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 10 August 22 18:30 BST (UK) »
Hello Gary,

My maternal grandmother was a Whiteford (Beverly Whiteford), and she was born in De Kalb, New York.  She was born to Bernice O'Brien Whiteford and Lynnley Whiteford.  My husband and I have an extensive tree on Ancestry.com.  If you'd like, we could share our tree with you.  The Whitefords I'm related to also came from Ballynure, Antrim, Ireland.  I'm also a descendent of a Hugh Whiteford (1793 to 1880).  My husband enjoys doing ancestry research, and he'll try to make a connection regarding the Ginn family.  I do recognize some of the other names you have listed as being DNA matches and from our family tree.  Hopefully, we'll be able to help you with your search.  I am originally from the NNY area but am now in Ohio.

Best regards,
Cassi Jesmer


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Re: Whiteford and Kane
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 13 August 22 23:37 BST (UK) »
THanks, Cassi. I would love a link to your tree. Your Hugh Whiteford ancestor appears to be the same person who was in care of my GGF William Ginn when he arrive at DeKalb as an immigrant.

I am originally from Massena but have lived in San Francisco since 1962.

Gary

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Re: Whiteford and Kane
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 August 22 09:31 BST (UK) »

Welcome to RootsChat, Cassi  :)

If you make at least one more post, then you can use the PM (Personal Message) system to contact  GaryStevens and exchange e-mail addresses and information about your tree on Ancestry.

Good luck!


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Whiteford and Kane
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 16 August 22 21:47 BST (UK) »
Thank you. I'll send you a PM with an invitation to view my tree.