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Re: Need Help looking up Ancestors
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 28 April 18 09:34 BST (UK) »
There's a John Owen buried at St Chad's Kirkby on 20 June 1837 abode given as Bickerstaffe in parish of Ormskirk aged 67 years.

www.lan-opc.org.uk has other bmds that might be of interest to you

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Re: Need Help looking up Ancestors
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 28 April 18 09:39 BST (UK) »
Also At St Chad Kirkby

Mary Owen widow 7 November 1839 aged 67 years from Liverpool Town Parish

Possibly John's widow?

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« Reply #29 on: Saturday 28 April 18 09:41 BST (UK) »
Could be, I wish I knew for sure. That is definitely something to think about.

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« Reply #30 on: Saturday 28 April 18 09:41 BST (UK) »
How would I confirm something like that


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Re: Need Help looking up Ancestors
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 29 April 18 07:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much everyone for the help so far. Would anyone know how I could find more about john and mary.

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Re: Need Help looking up Ancestors
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 29 April 18 16:32 BST (UK) »
Here is some initial digging I did for John (although it looks like things have pushed on further than that):

https://www.geni.com/discussions/180553?msg=1212448

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Re: Need Help looking up Ancestors
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 29 April 18 16:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much everyone for the help so far. Would anyone know how I could find more about john and mary.

I've had to do this with my wife's English side - you need to be methodical once you get beyond the censuses and the birth/marriage/death certificates (if you haven't grabbed everyone you can do so first as they might have some gem of information not otherwise available). Build up a picture of the wider family, find out where all the bodies are buried, make sure you keep an eye out for families moving around the villages in the area.

I was lucky to find a group based in the main local parish who had transcribed the gravestones, etc. and they can be a great help (I've had to throw out a stack of research into my own family thanks to what I found on one gravestone). As I assume popping over to Bickerstaffe or Kirby isn't on the cards any time soon, you could put in requests on Find A Grave:

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2270674/st-chad-churchyard
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2616665/holy-trinity-church

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Re: Need Help looking up Ancestors
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 29 April 18 17:14 BST (UK) »
Apparently Rosalind Lloyd has made a detailed survey of St Chad's graveyard:

https://www.cofekirkby.co.uk/st-chads-information/churchyardpage/

However, the link doesn't work.

I found this from her:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/localities.britisles.england.lan.general/14483/mb.ashx

However, that link is dead too.

I managed to get a cached version which has the following:

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Owen, Alice, A360, A603

Owen, Betty, A753

Owen, Catharine, A338

Owen, Charles, A365

Owen, Clara, A29

Owen, Clarissa, A61, A890

Owen, Clarissa Barton, C34t

Owen, Elizabeth, A296

Owen, Ellen, A29, A62, A268, A293, A801

Owen, Ellen (née Shacklady), A822

Owen, Frances, A494

Owen, George, A194, A753

Owen, Henry, A296, A613

Owen, Isaac, A61, A493?, A890

Owen, James, A268, A526, A801

Owen, Jane A48, A330, A890

Owen, John, A29, A338, A398, A474, A494, A753

Owen, Joseph, A293

Owen, Lydia, A194, A613

Owen, Margaret, A338, A526, A753

Owen, Mary, A61, A398

Owen, Mary Alice, C34t

Owen, Nancy, A29

Owen, Nanny (Anne), A613

Owen, Peter G, Memorial

Owen, Richard, A891, C34t

Owen, Robert, A29, A338, A452, C34t

Owen, Samuel, A801

Owen, Thomas, A48, A62, A360, A603, A890

Owen, Thomas Beesley, A603

Owen, William, A194, A330, A425, A454

Owen, Winifred, A971

https://web.archive.org/web/20040402164716/http://mysite.freeserve.com/stchadskirkby

As you can see some families are buried in the same grave and that might help you figure out their relation to each other (or eliminate them from your enquiries) and other families, like:

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Pickavance, Ellen, A338

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Prescot(t), Jane, A61, A158, A849

At least knowing the plot number might help you direct your Find a Grave request to the right place. Like A398?

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Re: Need Help looking up Ancestors
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 29 April 18 19:01 BST (UK) »
Also At St Chad Kirkby

Mary Owen widow 7 November 1839 aged 67 years from Liverpool Town Parish

Possibly John's widow?

This is the index for her death certificate from the GRO - you can now order a PDF of it:

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OWEN, MARY       67 
GRO Reference: 1839  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 20  Page 327