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Offline warpo

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Re: Strange middle name
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 26 April 18 09:59 BST (UK) »
Frederick Alexander Wilmore committed suicide on the 9th July 1915. George was born 30th Sep 1916. Thats 14 months (certainly got over her husbands death quick). Definitely not the father.

This is the only child with Cook in the name. Children were:

Audrey Lillian Wilmore; Reginald Frederick Alexander Wilmore; Alice Ann Wilmore; George Eric Cook Wilmore.

When Ethel Wilmore nee Major married Whitney, they all became Whitney.

Living in Grimsby when Frederick died. Ethel went back to Kings Lynn where George was born in Fleece Yard, Friars Street.
Hides; Wilmore; Whitney; Laughton; Lambley; Bampton; Cox; Kirk; Major; Heathorn; Bailiss

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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 26 April 18 10:11 BST (UK) »
Hi

Frank, Ethel and Alex Whitney appear on 1939 register together.

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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 26 April 18 10:30 BST (UK) »
Warpo, your situation is not that rare. I have a widow giving birth to a son roughly 18 months after the death of her husband. Looking at photos, he looked very different to the other children, they were all fair while he was dark haired. He died in 1917 in WWI. Fortunately for me there are no descendants to have to explain the situation.
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Re: Strange middle name
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 26 April 18 10:34 BST (UK) »
Quote from: [Ray] on Thursday 26 April 18 10:11 BST (UK)
Hi

Frank, Ethel and Alex Whitney appear on 1939 register together.

Ray

Yes they returned to grimsby
Hides; Wilmore; Whitney; Laughton; Lambley; Bampton; Cox; Kirk; Major; Heathorn; Bailiss

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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 26 April 18 10:56 BST (UK) »
Yes, perhaps Ethel did "get over" Frederick's death quickly in order to produce another child just 14 months after his death - she's definitely not the first to do that, nor the first to be duped by a male who was NOT a "gentleman".  You also have to remember that she had 3 young children to look after, the eldest being 5, AND there was no welfare state to support the family.
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday 26 April 18 11:16 BST (UK) »


. . . . . she may have been the reason he committed suicide, as in that she was already in a new "relationship" ?


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« Reply #24 on: Thursday 26 April 18 11:24 BST (UK) »
Yes, Ray, another possibility. 
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
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« Reply #25 on: Thursday 26 April 18 11:41 BST (UK) »
Quote from: [Ray] on Thursday 26 April 18 11:16 BST (UK)


. . . . . she may have been the reason he committed suicide, as in that she was already in a new "relationship" ?


Ray

It has crossed our mind. Plus there was another fiasco going on with Fredericks father. I have about 4 possible reasons as to why he ended his life. Unfortunately, i'll never know.
Hides; Wilmore; Whitney; Laughton; Lambley; Bampton; Cox; Kirk; Major; Heathorn; Bailiss

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« Reply #26 on: Thursday 26 April 18 13:59 BST (UK) »
Quote from: warpo on Thursday 26 April 18 08:25 BST (UK)

I'll try to get the Marriage Cert and see if that helps, else i'm out of options.

Quote from: warpo on Thursday 26 April 18 09:59 BST (UK)

This is the only child with Cook in the name. Children were:

Audrey Lillian Wilmore;
 Reginald Frederick Alexander Wilmore;
 Alice Ann Wilmore;
George Eric Cook Wilmore.

When Ethel Wilmore nee Major married Whitney, they all became Whitney.


Not that these details help with finding out who might be his father  ???

when Audrey L & Alice A married (1930 & 1932) their surname was  WILMORE
when Reginald F A & George E married (both in 1941) their surname was WHITNEY

For info. note sure if you have these details so have posted just in case........

George Eric Cook Whitney Death Age:   64
Burial Year:   1981
Burial Place:   North Thoresby, Lincolnshire, England
Cemetery:   St Helen
Also his Wife Madge b1923 d1983 and son
https://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?grave=344117

Ethel b1890 d1957 & Frank Whitney b1895 d1964   
https://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?grave=384859


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