Harold Stanley

[jorose]

The Walsh family on the ship appear to be James Walsh and Lily M Fisher who married in 1916 in Abergavenny.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7P9-5G8
 - Lily Fisher (aged 28) appears as the daughter of William and Adelaide Fisher in 1911, Alice Lynn is also in household (granddaughter of William and Adelaide).

So Alice's mother was presumably a Fisher.

In 1901, Alice seems to appear in the same household but as "Fisher":
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9TR-G5R

Confusingly, Alice b. 1897 has mother's maiden name as Hughes, which makes her this line:
Thomas Lancelot Lynn married Emma Jane Hughes, 1896
Alice Lynn, b. 1897
Olive Lynn, b. 1898
Olive Lynn (infant) and Emma Jane Lynn (20) died 1898

Emma Jane Hughes was daughter of Adelaide Fisher and stepdaughter of William Fisher:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-TXLT

[KGarrad]

Marriage, September qtr 1894
Abergavenny Registration District     vol , page 113

Smith, David
+ and, on the same page +
Stanley, Sophia

1901 census
Menelaus Street, Roath, Cardiff

Smith, David  Head  M  32  b Liswerry, Monmouthshire
Smith, Sophia  Wife  F  28  b Usk, Monmouthshire
Smith, Tom  Son  M  13  b Blaenavon, Monmouthshire
Smith, Harold  Son  M  10  b Blaenavon
Smith, Frank  Son  M  5  b Blaenavon
Smith, Florence H  Daughter  F  1  b Cardiff

[rainy]

You are all amazing.
Thank you KGarrad and jorose

Thank you for marriage Sept 1894 for Sophia Stanley to David Smith..

Now that explains names given to me I couldn't follow. Name given was Lyll Fisher who was a midwife.  I looked and looked at NZ Electoral rolls.
Now I know who it is as you have unraveled the mystery jorose. Amazing when names put together in right order.
But lady I am helping just didn't do genealogy or internet. 
So thanks to you all will be able to give her some family info.
Much appreciated.
rainy

[rainy]

I have found Harold Stanley and James Walsh on the Ruahine departing Southampton June 1921.

So that was what you thought that the men may have come ahead of their families.

Have also found Lily Maude Walsh's death in Lithgow NSW Australia in 1953.
Lily Maude Walsh also was registered in NZ as a Midwife training at Monmouthshire Training Centre.
Her registration being in 1922 in NZ then in Australia 1931-1933. Not sure about later.

When Alice Stanley and daughter Betty, with Lily M Walsh and daughters Kathleen and Sheila came from the UK in 1921.
Lily's father and Alice's grandfather travelled with them,William Fisher was his name.
 This ship ORMUZ departed Nov 1921 from London . The wonders of Passenger lists.

Thank you for help which then made me look for the above info.
Many thanks.
rainy

[Mary Stanley]

Hi
I have been happily reading about Harold Stanley's family history, somebody else's hard work.
William Fisher was my grandmother's, Alice Stanley's step-grandfather.
I believe he moved with the Walsh family to Australia and died there too. Don't know where.
Would anybody be able to solve the mystery of my grandfather's military service. He was conscripted in 1916, as many of the labourers were. I believe he was in the Labour Corp's, his work was to drive the donkey carts to the front line with armaments,bring wounded back. Also dig the trenches, hence his nickname Digger, our pet name for him was Dig.
Regards
M Stanley

[Jamjar]

Welcome to Rootschat, Mary.

What was your grandfather’s name?

Also, his parent’s names?

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

Obit for Lily Maude Walsh, cremated ROOKWOOD: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article223419131

Jamjar

[rainy]

Hello Mary I found the death of William Fisher on Trove where there was a small obituary for him.
Because I was only helping a lady whose grandfather was Harold Stanley I do not keep the info.
But just looked again .


Lithgow Mercury  3rd March 1937

Same newspaper remember correctly has Lily Walsh obituary as well.

 William Fisher came to NZ first then they shifted to NSW Australia.

I followed them through electoral rolls in NZ and Aus.


There will be a record of his Military Service but not sure exactly where.
Put your question into google and see what happens.


Happy researching.
rainy

[Jamjar]

Obit for William Walsh: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article221873207

4896/1937 William FISHER parents JOHN and MARY LITHGOW

Jamjar