Tate of Wistow; Rimington of Pontefract; Todd, Turner & Wharrey of Selby

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Hello

John Hood & M. Slipper were each occupying a part of a House divided into two Tenements at Mill Gate, Selby in 1786 and John Hood later in 1802 (transcribed below).

The same House at Selby, divided into two Tenements changed owners in 1790. I am wondering if any of those Surnames named in the 1790 property transfer had any links to a HOOD please:-

Thomas EADON of Selby, Gentleman (looked at before).
William RIMINGTON of Pontefract, Yeoman.
Joseph TATE of Wistow, Yeoman.
John TODD of Selby, Tanner.
John TURNER of Selby, Tallow Chandler, Grocer, a Book Keeper a few years later.
John SPENCER of Selby, Grocer. (later a Gent.)
Morley WHARREY of Selby, Gentleman.

Jno Todd
Witnessed by Jno Dodsworth and John Myers.

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ADDED
Fragmenta Genealogica, Volume 12, by Frederick Arthur Crisp, page 93, has information about Morley Wharrey, the Wharrey family of Selby; Gainsborough and a Granddaughter Jane Jowitt of Pheobe Morley dying 13th of 2nd Mo. 1848 and her remains buried at Pontefract on the 18th.

The dating arrangement in the book for this Wharrey family has adopted the Quaker system, where the names of the months are not used.


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Later Transfer of Same Property

Spencer to Hembrough Indenture of Lease and Release 8 & 9th Days of October 1802.

Between John Spencer of Selby in the County of York Gentleman of the one part and Thomas Hembrough of the same place Yeoman of the other part ...
Concerning all that Messuage now used as two Dwelling Houses or Tenements with the Garth Garden or Orchard and other the premises thereto belonging situate lying and being Selby aforesaid in a certain Street there called Millgate and now in the Tenures or Occupations of John Hood and Robert Nicholson or their undertenants Together with all and Singular houses outhouses edifices buildings ways waters watercourses walls party walls easements profits advantages hereditaments and appurtenances whatsoever to the said Messuage Dwelling houses or Tenements and premises belonging or in any wise appertaining except the common right belonging to the said Messuage or Dwellinghouses which is now allotted to the said John Spencer and intended to be awarded to him and his Heirs ...

Lease and release
Description   1 John Perfect of Pontefract, gentleman, and John Bayldon of Wakefield, gentleman
2 Sarah Lambe of Pontefract, widow
Elizabeth Vaux of Ackworth, spinster and only daughter and heir of Mary Vaux, late Mary
Heptinstall, spinster, deceased, which said Sarah Lambe and Mary Vaux were two of the daughters
and co-heirs of Ann, the late deceased wife of John Heptinstall of East Hardwick, gentleman, and
also the two surviving sisters and co-heirs of Elizabeth Heptinstall, deceased, another daughter
and co-heir of the said Ann, who died intestate, and which said Elizabeth Heptinstall and Mary
Vaux were the two devisees named in the last will and testament of Sarah Birkhead, spinster,
deceased
Elizabeth Rimington of Carleton, widow
John Cockin of Fenchurch Street in the city of London, merchant, and Mary his wife John Stagg of Selby, gentleman, and Ann his wife, which said Elizabeth Rimington, Mary Cockin and Ann Stagg are the three daughters and co-heirs of Ann, the late deceased wife of Thomas Crosland late of Foulby, gentleman, deceased
George Wood of the Middle Temple, London, esquire eldest son and heir of Jane the late deceased
wife of the Revd George Wood, late of Royston, clerk, deceased, which said Ann Crosland and
Jane Wood were the two daughters and co-heirs of Elizabeth, the late deceased wife of John
Matson of Royston, gentleman, deceased, and which said Ann the wife of the said John
Heptinstall, Sarah Birkhead, spinster and Elizabeth the wife of the said John Matson were the three
sisters and co-heirs of Richard Birkhead of Wakefield, gentleman, deceased
3 William Wigglesworth of Dewsbury, sadler and collar maker
Property: a close of land in Dewsbury called the Lazing Ing
Date   2-3 Feb 1784

https://www.catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=BC74001%2f3%2f127&pos=1

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=754247.msg6204685#msg6204685

Hull History Centre Calalogue Only
Papers of the Forbes Adam / Thompson / Lawley (Barons Wenlock) Family of Escrick


/18/145 dated 11-12 February 1795 Assignment of Mortgage as U DDFA/18/139

(i) Smithson Tenant of the Temple, London esq. (only child of Mary Tennant as U DDFA/18/139). (ii) John Stagg now of Ackwith House. (iii) John Tate (as U DDFA/18/139) to. (iv) Philip Holmes of Selby innkeeper and (v) John Watson of Selby tanner.


Underneath, in the Hull H.C. catalogue descriptions is a:- Copy of Phillip Holmes Will and some other document descriptions including Procter of Selby, Tate of Selby, Thompsons and a Cowling.



Foulby is just North of Hemsworth  and Sorth Kirkby

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Baptism of Thomas Crossland Cockin son of John Cocking and Mary Crossland 22nd June 1779,
St Margaret with St Gabriel. Fenchurch London

1784
Thomas Crossland (Gentleman) and late wife Ann of Foulby Near Hemsworth had 3 daughters
Mary Cocking Nee Crossland married John Cockin merchant of Fenchurch London (Above)
Ann Stagg nee Crossland married John Stagg of Selby
Eliziabeth Rimington nee Crossland widow of Carleton near Pontefract

(William RIMINGTON of Pontefract, Yeoman.?)

John Stagg later lived at Ackworth house

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790433.msg6600304#msg6600304

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https://catalogue.hullhistorycentre.org.uk/catalogue/U-DP99-1

Lease for a year: John Stagg of Selby gent. to Joseph Robinson of South Duffield gent.
1 Apr 1774
Description:
Messuage, barn, croft and 4ac. in the town fields; messuage, parcel on which a house stood, and 3 garths (5ac.) all in South Duffield

There was George William Hood son of Daniel and Jane Hood baptised 24th August 1783 Newgate London justy next st to Fenchurch Just across the river Thames From Southwark.

[BushInn1746]

Baptism of Thomas Crossland Cockin son of John Cocking and Mary Crossland 22nd June 1779,
St Margaret with St Gabriel. Fenchurch London

1784
Thomas Crossland (Gentleman) and late wife Ann of Foulby Near Hemsworth had 3 daughters
Mary Cocking Nee Crossland married John Cockin merchant of Fenchurch London (Above)
Ann Stagg nee Crossland married John Stagg of Selby
Eliziabeth Rimington nee Crossland widow of Carleton near Pontefract

(William RIMINGTON of Pontefract, Yeoman.?)

John Stagg later lived at Ackworth house

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790433.msg6600304#msg6600304

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https://catalogue.hullhistorycentre.org.uk/catalogue/U-DP99-1

Lease for a year: John Stagg of Selby gent. to Joseph Robinson of South Duffield gent.
1 Apr 1774
Description:
Messuage, barn, croft and 4ac. in the town fields; messuage, parcel on which a house stood, and 3 garths (5ac.) all in South Duffield

There was George William Hood son of Daniel and Jane Hood baptised 24th August 1783 Newgate London justy next st to Fenchurch Just across the river Thames From Southwark.

Quote from your archive catalogue document description (in replies 53 & 54)
... Elizabeth Rimington of Carleton, widow John Cockin of Fenchurch Street in the city of London, merchant, and Mary his wife John Stagg of Selby, gentleman, and Ann his wife, which said Elizabeth Rimington, Mary Cockin and Ann Stagg are the three daughters and co-heirs of Ann, the late deceased wife of Thomas Crosland late of Foulby, gentleman, deceased
End of Quote


Hello Dave and All

Excellent Dave.

The document was saying that an Elizabeth RIMINGTON was nee CROSLAND

AND

John COCKIN married Mary CROSLAND


Also with Cockin and Crossland link and some link to the Hemsworth, Yorkshire, area and Selby (I have not took it in yet, but will need to look it all up and sketch it out).

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I had found in the London Gazette a notice (attached) regarding John Crosland Cockin some years ago, but could not seem to make a Cockin Crosland link in the South Kirkby - Hemsworth area.

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Because, Charles Turner (the Husband of Maudland Hood) had a Brother called William Turner at South Kirkby, Yorkshire, who married Elizabeth Denton, Widow, (nee Elizabeth Crosland).

1788 at South Kirkby
Benjamin Denton of South Kirkby, Maltster married
Elizabeth Crosland of South Kirkby, Spinster
Present (wits): Jo'n Hanley ; James Watterton.

The Watterton family were neighbours of the Turner, Blacksmith, family at South Kirkby, Yorks,


1792, 5th April, Burials at South Kirkby
Benjamin Denton of S.K Innkeeper


1792, 28th October, South Kirby
William Turner of South Kirkby in the County of York Blacksmith married
Elizabeth Denton of the Parish aforesaid, Widow
Present (wits): [James? smudged] Haigh ; William Wilson


Confirming, William Turner of South Kirkby, Blacksmith, married nee Elizabeth Crosland.

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I had been looking for a Cockin = Crosland, link 

Mark


Added:

1757, Royston, 10th January, by Licence
John Rimington of this Parish, Yeoman, 27 years,
married
Elizabeth Crosland of ye Parish of Foulby, Spinster, 18 years [Licence transcript says Wragby]
Present (wits): Ann Newbould, John Burditt.

All sign.

Foldby or Foulby was a Hamlet in Sharlston in the old Parish of Wragby.

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The Family of Rimmington, of Gateforth [in the Parish of Brayton, Near Selby]
https://archive.org/details/genealogist3619selb/page/n217/mode/2up?q=Crossland

I wonder if John Rimington, Yeoman, of Royston, was related to Rimmington of Gateforth, family?


A descendant of William Turner of South Kirkby, was known to the Turner family as Frances Bayldon daughter of Sarah Rymer, Widow, the daughter of William Turner of South Kirkby. (Bayldon spelt Beldan at the marriage).

In your recent pieces Dave you mention a Bayldon, I think?


Added:
I am going to have to come back to this tomorrow.

[dobfarm]

Hi Mark

Obviously you know far more than me, but the picture on this was 2 items of interest:

1) An indirect Cockin link to Selby in the right time frame.

2) Locations:- Charles Turner, (Husband of Maudland Hood ) origins South Kirkby area, John Spencer Grocer of Selby & landlord of John Hood Selby, origins Hemsworth area, then John Cockin Fenchurch London north of River Thames and John Hood mariner of Scarborough & Selby father of Maudland (aforesaid above) visiting Southwark south River Thames directly opposite across from Fenchurch London.

What it means - I don't know.

[BushInn1746]

Baptism of Thomas Crossland Cockin son of John Cocking and Mary Crossland 22nd June 1779,
St Margaret with St Gabriel. Fenchurch London

1784
Thomas Crossland (Gentleman) and late wife Ann of Foulby Near Hemsworth had 3 daughters
Mary Cocking Nee Crossland married John Cockin merchant of Fenchurch London (Above)
Ann Stagg nee Crossland married John Stagg of Selby
Eliziabeth Rimington nee Crossland widow of Carleton near Pontefract

(William RIMINGTON of Pontefract, Yeoman.?)

John Stagg later lived at Ackworth house

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790433.msg6600304#msg6600304

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https://catalogue.hullhistorycentre.org.uk/catalogue/U-DP99-1

Lease for a year: John Stagg of Selby gent. to Joseph Robinson of South Duffield gent.
1 Apr 1774
Description:
Messuage, barn, croft and 4ac. in the town fields; messuage, parcel on which a house stood, and 3 garths (5ac.) all in South Duffield

There was George William Hood son of Daniel and Jane Hood baptised 24th August 1783 Newgate London justy next st to Fenchurch Just across the river Thames From Southwark.

Quote from your archive catalogue document description (in replies 53 & 54)
... Elizabeth Rimington of Carleton, widow John Cockin of Fenchurch Street in the city of London, merchant, and Mary his wife John Stagg of Selby, gentleman, and Ann his wife, which said Elizabeth Rimington, Mary Cockin and Ann Stagg are the three daughters and co-heirs of Ann, the late deceased wife of Thomas Crosland late of Foulby, gentleman, deceased
End of Quote


Hello Dave and All

Excellent Dave.

The document was saying that an Elizabeth RIMINGTON was nee CROSLAND

AND

John COCKIN married Mary CROSLAND


Also with Cockin and Crossland link and some link to the Hemsworth, Yorkshire, area and Selby (I have not took it in yet, but will need to look it all up and sketch it out).

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Because, Charles Turner (the Husband of Maudland Hood) had a Brother called William Turner at South Kirkby, Yorkshire, who married Elizabeth Denton, Widow, (nee Elizabeth Crosland).

1788 at South Kirkby
Benjamin Denton of South Kirkby, Maltster married
Elizabeth Crosland of South Kirkby, Spinster
Present (wits): Jo'n Hanley ; James Watterton.

The Watterton family were neighbours of the Turner, Blacksmith, family at South Kirkby, Yorks,


1792, 5th April, Burials at South Kirkby
Benjamin Denton of S.K Innkeeper


1792, 28th October, South Kirby
William Turner of South Kirkby in the County of York Blacksmith married
Elizabeth Denton of the Parish aforesaid, Widow
Present (wits): [James? smudged] Haigh ; William Wilson


Confirming, William Turner of South Kirkby, Blacksmith, married nee Elizabeth Crosland.


Mark


Added:

1757, Royston, 10th January, by Licence
John Rimington of this Parish, Yeoman, 27 years,
married
Elizabeth Crosland of ye Parish of Foulby, Spinster, 18 years [Licence transcript says Wragby]
Present (wits): Ann Newbould, John Burditt.

All sign.

Foldby or Foulby was a Hamlet in Sharlston in the old Parish of Wragby.

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Hello Dave and All

Thank you Dave.

With the exception of the Turner marriages of South Kirkby I had saved, I also had two of your marriages already saved on another PC (pc inoperable until recently):-

1st)
1757 John Walton = Mary Crosland

2nd)
1776 John Cockin = Mary Walton, Widow

Your document find and information was helpful in locating the other Registers and attached information.


Regarding part of that 1784 document Catalogue summary (highlighted in Green in the quote):-
https://www.catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=BC74001%2f3%2f127&pos=1


Attachment

CROSLAND part of ... IBBOTSON - WILSON - CROSLAND - GARLICKE
FMG (Vol 2, MS268, Ibbotson-Wilson-Crosland-Garlicke, p650+).

FMG = Familiae Minorum Gentium


AMENDED:
These Rimington and Wilson, relate to Broomhead Hall.

I can see no close link to Crosland at South Kirkby, nor to Rimmington at Gateforth, Nr Selby, at the moment.

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1792 at South Kirkby of
William TURNER, Blacksmith = Elizabeth DENTON, Widow (who was nee Elizabeth CROSLAND)
Wits: William WILSON, [     ] HAIGH.

No link found.


Mark

[dobfarm]

Hi Mark

First I know that area well, as I use to walk a lot at the lakes, trails at Wintersett, and Hemsworth water park also since I got my OAP free bus over a few years use the 28 bus Barnsley to Pontefract that skirts South Kirkby on its way to Hemsworth, then goes to Fitzwilliam, then takes  a few miles on the B6428 to Offley lane roundabout, (Wragby crossroads) then on the A638 to Ackworth roundabout, then on the A628 to Ackworth village, then Featherstone and then onto Pontefract.
 I also very occasionally drive to South Elmsall open market, passing through Foulby, pass by Nostell Priory estate, then through Fitzwilliam, Hemsworth, South Kirkby, Moorthorpe to South Elmsall.
At Foulby there's the odd farm, with a  only a long row of very old houses at the side of the main road, made of similar stone to those on the Nostell estate buildings and seems to be part of the complex.

What is noticeable is there is no major waterway or canal in this area until you get to Thorne or Doncaster which make me think the London Southwark and Fenchurch was where any connection to John Hood of Selby was made - if any -?, So Maudland Hood/ Turner is the Hemsworth area connection -if any -?

Ackworth House - John Stagg, (off hand) you have a lot of info on Achworth (Quaker School), was it not thought George Hood born 1786 ish may have  schooled there in Ackworth,

If you can find the link through Maudland to George you'll have a base to really work on  going by your dedication so far, with all your lines of research for finding George of Selby's early life pre 1812.

Good Luck

Dave

[BushInn1746]

Hello Dave

Rimington and Wilson in a printed book on Family Search (attached to previous reply) and a large fold out Tree (too large to attach), relate to Broomhead Hall.

No close link to Rimmington it seems, at Gateforth House, near Selby.

Crosland, seem separate too.

Thanks, Mark

[dobfarm]

Baptism of Thomas Crossland Cockin son of John Cocking and Mary Crossland 22nd June 1779,
St Margaret with St Gabriel. Fenchurch London

1784
Thomas Crossland (Gentleman) and late wife Ann of Foulby Near Hemsworth had 3 daughters
Mary Cocking Nee Crossland married John Cockin merchant of Fenchurch London (Above)
Ann Stagg nee Crossland married John Stagg of Selby
Eliziabeth Rimington nee Crossland widow of Carleton near Pontefract

(William RIMINGTON of Pontefract, Yeoman.?)

John Stagg later lived at Ackworth house

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=790433.msg6600304#msg6600304

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https://catalogue.hullhistorycentre.org.uk/catalogue/U-DP99-1

Lease for a year: John Stagg of Selby gent. to Joseph Robinson of South Duffield gent.
1 Apr 1774
Description:
Messuage, barn, croft and 4ac. in the town fields; messuage, parcel on which a house stood, and 3 garths (5ac.) all in South Duffield

There was George William Hood son of Daniel and Jane Hood baptised 24th August 1783 Newgate London justy next st to Fenchurch Just across the river Thames From Southwark.

Quote from your archive catalogue document description (in replies 53 & 54)
... Elizabeth Rimington of Carleton, widow John Cockin of Fenchurch Street in the city of London, merchant, and Mary his wife John Stagg of Selby, gentleman, and Ann his wife, which said Elizabeth Rimington, Mary Cockin and Ann Stagg are the three daughters and co-heirs of Ann, the late deceased wife of Thomas Crosland late of Foulby, gentleman, deceased
End of Quote


Hello Dave and All

Excellent Dave.

The document was saying that an Elizabeth RIMINGTON was nee CROSLAND

AND

John COCKIN married Mary CROSLAND


Also with Cockin and Crossland link and some link to the Hemsworth, Yorkshire, area and Selby (I have not took it in yet, but will need to look it all up and sketch it out).

 ----------

Because, Charles Turner (the Husband of Maudland Hood) had a Brother called William Turner at South Kirkby, Yorkshire, who married Elizabeth Denton, Widow, (nee Elizabeth Crosland).

1788 at South Kirkby
Benjamin Denton of South Kirkby, Maltster married
Elizabeth Crosland of South Kirkby, Spinster
Present (wits): Jo'n Hanley ; James Watterton.

The Watterton family were neighbours of the Turner, Blacksmith, family at South Kirkby, Yorks,


1792, 5th April, Burials at South Kirkby
Benjamin Denton of S.K Innkeeper


1792, 28th October, South Kirby
William Turner of South Kirkby in the County of York Blacksmith married
Elizabeth Denton of the Parish aforesaid, Widow
Present (wits): [James? smudged] Haigh ; William Wilson


Confirming, William Turner of South Kirkby, Blacksmith, married nee Elizabeth Crosland.


Mark


Added:

1757, Royston, 10th January, by Licence
John Rimington of this Parish, Yeoman, 27 years,
married
Elizabeth Crosland of ye Parish of Foulby, Spinster, 18 years [Licence transcript says Wragby]
Present (wits): Ann Newbould, John Burditt.

All sign.

Foldby or Foulby was a Hamlet in Sharlston in the old Parish of Wragby.

 ...

Hello Dave and All

Thank you Dave.

With the exception of the Turner marriages of South Kirkby I had saved, I also had two of your marriages already saved on another PC (pc inoperable until recently):-

1st)
1757 John Walton = Mary Crosland

2nd)
1776 John Cockin = Mary Walton, Widow

Your document find and information was helpful in locating the other Registers and attached information.


Regarding part of that 1784 document Catalogue summary (highlighted in Green in the quote):-
https://www.catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=BC74001%2f3%2f127&pos=1


Attachment

CROSLAND part of ... IBBOTSON - WILSON - CROSLAND - GARLICKE
FMG (Vol 2, MS268, Ibbotson-Wilson-Crosland-Garlicke, p650+).

FMG = Familiae Minorum Gentium


AMENDED:
These Rimington and Wilson, relate to Broomhead Hall.

I can see no close link to Crosland at South Kirkby, nor to Rimmington at Gateforth, Nr Selby, at the moment.

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1792 at South Kirkby of
William TURNER, Blacksmith = Elizabeth DENTON, Widow (who was nee Elizabeth CROSLAND)
Wits: William WILSON, [     ] HAIGH.

No link found.


Mark

You have a James Cockin a witness of a marriage

John Cockin brother in law of John Stagg of Selby and later Ackworth

So its down to : - did William Cockin of Huddersfield  (father of John Cockin merchant fenchurch London) have a son called James Cockin or  a nephew - cousin of John Hood  fenchurch London.

This Crossland mob (family sound a very rich posh lot) origins stemming from Crossland Hall in South Crossland and Crossland moor Huddersfield.

John Hood a captain mariner of a packet boat or coaster and his son in law Charles Turner a blacksmith don't seem quit in the same class. John Stagg seems in the upper class bracket as well being of Ackworth house.

Maybe be another dead end.

[dobfarm]

To all or future researchers,

If there is a link to George Hood - it could be that George hood of Selby pre 1812 - he was a small time businessman from London who bought a failed bankrupt cooper business with skilled coopers, to turn into a recovery stock with his business stills, and on paper he was a cooper business owner, but defined himself on documents as his occupation as just a 'cooper' which would explain why he change his businesses to brewing and tanning which needed skilled people in all these trades and most important of all George Hood could not have been apprentice trained in all 3 trades of being a cooper, brewer or tanner. . Thus John Hood and daughter Maudland Hood later Mrs Charles Turner could have been a coincidence in this scenario! that they just happened to be living in Selby with the surname Hood and no connection to George Hood.

( There as always been a class distinction between maritime Hood's of Selby to this comer in of George Hood to Selby  to buy a failed business, with his business skills and class of his standing of wealth but more his business skills' Hence why!! no connection can be found between John Hood mariner or George Hood businessman both of Selby, over many years of serious research by Mark and no history of George Hood pre 1812 but lots on John Hood) 

 The connection of John Cocking a merchant of Fenchurcch street, London, who age in 1784 would be a man of age and could have had a son or grandson called James Cocking more to George Hood born 1786 ish age at the time of George Hood marriage to Sarah Russell of Selby 1815 Selby.