Ellen / Helen Bain

[Kirsty Edwards]

Don't know, Kirsty. Just wandering what surname he showed under on that listing.

Monica

Looks like Helen had another illegitimate child

[dowdstree]

Like you having problems finding a death certificate for your Helen/Ellen Bain.

The William Bain aged 4 months, Boarder- there is a birth for him on SP for 1910. It is listed under William Tennant Bain.

Can I ask where your grandfather John Myron married and who were the witnesses ? Sometimes this  gives us an extra clue.

Dorrie

[Kirsty Edwards]

Like you having problems finding a death certificate for your Helen/Ellen Bain.

The William Bain aged 4 months, Boarder- there is a birth for him on SP for 1910. It is listed under William Tennant Bain.

Can I ask where your grandfather John Myron married and who were the witnesses ? Sometimes this  gives us an extra clue.

Dorrie

both my grandparents have passed now so I've attached the MC - my grandmas brother and sister were

[dowdstree]

At least that now rules out any Bain's being witnesses.

Did your grandparents settle in Glasgow after WW2 ?

Still getting nowhere with Helen/Ellen's death, sorry.

Dorrie

[Kirsty Edwards]

At least that now rules out any Bain's being witnesses.

Did your grandparents settle in Glasgow after WW2 ?

Still getting nowhere with Helen/Ellen's death, sorry.

Dorrie

Yeah it's a bit of an odd one. We know from her sons marriage certificate she and Morris (who she didn't marry) were alive in 1942. They didn't immigrate. My grandparents John & Ann immigrated out to New Zealand in the late 50's. The last document I have of her is that in 1935 she was a servant (still) at 36 BALVENIE STREET, Dufftown, Banffshire, Scotland.

A part from her son's birth cert, William Tennant Bain, I can't find anything further on him either!

[dowdstree]

I might have found something on William Tennant Bain as it is quite an unusual middle name.

There is a record on Ancestry which takes you to the National Archives and it reads as follows -

Bain, William Tennant, Warrant Officer Class 2, Service Number 2873412, 1st Battalion The Royal Scots.
Distinguished Conduct Medal - Burma - London Gazette 22nd July 1943.

It might be worth putting this on the WW2 board and see if some of our experts there can come up with anything else.

He is not listed as a casualty in the Commonwealth War Graves Commission so he survived the war.

Dorrie

[Kirsty Edwards]

Thank you!

[MonicaL]

Dorrie, from what you mentioned, medals for William Tennant Bain have been put up for sale http://andrewhartleyfinearts.co.uk/hartleys/lot/view/id/312511/

Monica

[MonicaL]

I wonder if this is his wedding notice:


Dover Express Kent, England

12 Mar 1937

LOCAL WEDDING. MR. W. T. BAIN—MISS L. WARD. The wedding took place on Wednesday, March 3rd, at St. James's Church, of Miss Lily Ward, daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. A. P. Ward, to Mr. William Tennant Bain, son of Mrs. Bain, and the late Mr. W. T. Bain
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Monica