No, regarding Thomas Bartley who married Margaret Plumb, I have two paternal leads so far, Francis Barkley and Samuel Bartley. Francis Barkley has the name Bartley when he declares his son's birth in 1810. Samuel Bartley had a son Thomas born in 1807. A Thomas Bartley died in Preston in 1835 aged 27. Who was he? I imagine when Thomas junior married Margaret both his parents were already dead.