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Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« on: Monday 26 February 18 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello out there. I've been able to trace back my Bartley family line to 1810 and the birth of Thomas Bartley, whose father's first name was Francis. I've been unable to go back any further and was wondering if anyone else shared the same ancestor/s.

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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 February 18 14:22 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat

I am not related but here is Thomas's baptism to start us off  :)
St Peter, Liverpool 16 Sept 1810
Father Francis occupation Coachman -abode Cook Street
mother Mary (formerly Whiting)
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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 February 18 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Did Francis die young
St John Liverpool,
17th October 1815
William Wilson,x mariner of Liverpool
Mary Bartley,x widow of Liverpool
married by banns
witness Will Holden and Willm Benjamin
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #3 on: Monday 26 February 18 23:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that. I do have the information regarding Thomas’s birth certificate. What is a mystery though is that I can find no other trace of Francis Bartley; no, birth certificate, marriage certificate or death certificate, just the fact that he had a son.  I have a hunch that Francis was perhaps born in Ulster, but can find no trace there either. Finding Francis is thus my aim!


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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 08:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that. I do have the information regarding Thomas’s birth certificate.

I posted the birth as it gave more information on Thomas's parents including Francis's occupation and their abode at the time of the baptism. 

Do you have a marriage for them  :-\
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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 08:21 GMT (UK) »
No birth certificate, marriage certificate or death certificate, just the fact that he had a son and lived at Cook St. with his wife and was a coachman. I have a hunch that Francis was perhaps born in Ulster, but can find no trace of him there either.

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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 08:32 GMT (UK) »
Did you see that there is a burial at St John's on 29 February 1816 for a Francis Barckley, aged 2, son of Francis & Mary, abode Crosshall Street, occupation coachman?
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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 09:20 GMT (UK) »
No, I didn't. Thanks. 'Bartley', like many names, could be misspelt. If you find anything about where he was born or died, I'd be grateful.

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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 21:08 GMT (UK) »
Following on from ShaunJ, I changed the search and left off the surname, have found this for a Francis
Barkley in case it leads somewhere

Liverpool Mercury 22 December 1826

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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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