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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 21:20 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant! Now would this Francis Barkley with a 'k' be the the father of Thomas Bartley with a 't' who married Margaret Plumb on 9th March 1834? Thanks for the help.

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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 21:24 GMT (UK) »
The deaths are in the Non Conformist records, Francis... Sir Thomas ?
Elizabeth Williams is the next entry, Peter Street age 39

There is a marriage online 18 Oct 1809 in Liverpool by License to a Mary Whiting, Francis Barkley coachman

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***edited Mary's surname
Vicar wrote Whitehead and she signed Whiting
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Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Do you have a son possible son William 1822?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBHN-DM4

Father Francis Hill Street Coachman

As Burkley Bishop's transcripts

Also on Lancs opc and a sister Mary

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
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Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 22:46 GMT (UK) »
No, regarding Thomas Bartley who married Margaret Plumb, I have two paternal leads so far, Francis Barkley and Samuel Bartley. Francis Barkley has the name Bartley when he declares his son's birth in 1810. Samuel Bartley had a son Thomas born in 1807. A Thomas Bartley died in Preston in 1835 aged 27. Who was he? I imagine when Thomas junior married Margaret both his parents were already dead.


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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 27 February 18 23:20 GMT (UK) »
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There is a marriage online 18 Oct 1809 in Liverpool by License to a Mary Whiting, Francis Barkley coachman

I think you may be on to something there, Willsy !
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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Barkley married John Williams at St Peter's on 16 January 1811. He was a coach driver. Witnesses were Francis Barkley and Catherine Thomas.

If Francis Barkley was aged 37 in mid-December 1826 he must have been born between mid-December 1788 and mid-December 1789.  To be aged 21 at the time of the 18 October 1809 marriage he would have had to have been born before 18 October 1788. The dates don't quite coincide.

Possible birth in Oswestry in 1789 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7L6-Q4M
With a sister Elizabeth two years older  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5SB-8X2
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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 16:38 GMT (UK) »
The marriage caught my eye after what rosie99 had posted; might be worth chasing the marriage Lic.

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Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
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Kendrick, Leicestershire
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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 17:16 GMT (UK) »
The marriage licence is on Findmypast under Cheshire Marriage Licences and Allegations. The free index shows Francis as Francis Barkley.

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Re: Francis Bartley, father of Thomas Bartley born in Liverpool in 1810
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 28 February 18 17:22 GMT (UK) »
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