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Re: Janet/Jessie Nicoll of Craig Parish.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 25 February 18 03:21 GMT (UK) »
That is great that you have made the correct link another piece of your jigsaw complete.

Please do let SP know of the error as Forfarian suggests. I looked for a marriage of a great aunt for years. I did not know if she had married in Scotland or England but nothing came upon SP so just assumed it must have been England and there were a few there that fitted.  Too expensive to order all the certificates so it looked like another brick wall. Late last year information from a family member came up with her husband's first name of Bob. Not really any help. However, a p.s. on his Christmas card gave me Bob's surname.  It had come from another cousin in Canada. I searched on SP under the husband's name and found the marriage - her surname on the index was totally wrong. I emailed SP and they have corrected it.

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Re: Janet/Jessie Nicoll of Craig Parish.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 26 February 18 08:37 GMT (UK) »
My 3xs great grandmother Jean Stott got married in Craig in 1844, from her death certificate of 1888 her parents are listed as William Stott and Helen Mitchell. Her father William Stott died in 1871 aged 80 (listed as widower of Helen Mitchell) his parents are listed as James Stott/Stot/Stoot and Margaret Smith. It looks like Margaret Smith is living with William in 1841 showing as aged 80. Do you know who the parents of John Stott married to Ann Tindal were?
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Re: Janet/Jessie Nicoll of Craig Parish.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 March 18 03:00 GMT (UK) »
Dorrie and Jen, 

Apologies for the late response to this thread. Ended up moving house quite suddenly and family tree stuff was on the back burner for a while. 

I will check my tree tomorrow Jen when I am back on my PC (using phone just now).

Dorrie, will definitely contact SP about the error tomorrow, has totally forgotten to do this with the move.

Will keep on top of this now.

. Do you know who the parents of John Stott married to Ann Tindal were?
Jen

Sorry, can't seem to find anything conclusive for who John Stott's parents were.

As per his marriage record in 1809 it states he was of Craig Parish and his wife Ann Tindal was of Stracathro. I would assume that he was born circa. 1787, but have found nothing concrete yet.
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Re: Janet/Jessie Nicoll of Craig Parish.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 22 July 24 14:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Liviani,

My 3x great grannie is Janet Nicol b 28 Apr 1812 Montrose, Angus, Scotland. I agree with you that the MS on her death cert of Smith is wrong and should be Tindal.  I had done a lot of digging around and concluded Smith was an error.

I am descended from her daughter Janet (Jessie) Nicol Stott b 28 Oct 1855 Rossie Island, Craig, Angus who married Robert Young a Printwork Mechanic in Lennoxtown, Campsie 04 Nov 1878.
She died 14 Nov 1892 days after the birth of their last child aged only 37

Their children were

Janet Nicol YOUNG b 26 Jan 1879
Isabella Patrick YOUNG b 28 May 1880
William YOUNG b 23 Apr 1882
James YOUNG b 30 Aug 1884
Margaret YOUNG b 01 Nov 1886
Robina YOUNG b 10 Feb 1888
Robert YOUNG b 22 Jan 1890
Elizabeth Pyper YOUNG b 09 Nov 1892

The middle name Pyper comes from Janet Nicol Stott's sister Elizabeth Stott who became PYPER after marrying David Pyper.
The middle name Patrick comes from the male line and Robert's mother's Maiden name PATRICK

My great Gran was Janet Nicol YOUNG and I'm named after the Janet's going back through the Nicol (Nichol) line.

I hope some of this helps and I'd be really to happy to hear from you and share info!

Kind regards
Another Janet  :)


Hi everyone, looking for some help in pinning down Janet's parents, I have two different possible mothers for her.

My 4x great-grandmother is Janet Nicoll, born approx 1812, in Craig Parish near Montrose.

She married James Stott in 1836 in Craig, indexed as follows;

STOTT
JAMES
JESSE NICHOL/
17/12/1836
280/
30 174
Craig


Janet/Jessie Nicoll dies in 1907 in Rossie Island at the grand old age of 95. The informant is her son (my 3x great-grandfather) James Stott b.1843.

On this DC her parents have been informed as 'John Nicoll' (Tailor) and 'Jessie Nicoll m.s. Smith'.

I'm unsure if this is an error made by James Stott. My reason for this is that there is a birth of a Janet Nicoll indexed on SP as follows;

NICOLL
JANET
JOHN NICOLL/JEAN TINDAL
F
28/04/1812
312/
50 434
Montrose


I checked the 1841 census (FreeCen) for possible matches for a John and Jean Nicoll;

I believe I have found them, unfortunately Jean/Jane/Jessie isn't listed with her maiden name as sometimes happens in 1841.

They are living at Hillside of Hedderwick, Parish of Montrose. John Nichol, 55, Occ; Tailor and Jane Nichol, 55. Both born Angus. With John being listed as a Tailor on his daughter's DC I feel this is them.

This may not be solvable but do we think that James Stott made an error with his grandmother's name and is it actually Jean/Jane/Jessie TINDAL instead of SMITH?

Note; I have at present 9 children born to James Stott and Janet Nicoll. Unfortunately I don't have any middle names for them which may indicate any maiden names of their maternal grandmother. The children I have for this couple are as follows;


Jane          b.1837 Craig
Ann           b.1839 Craig
Elizabeth    b. abt 1841 Craig
James        b.1843 Craig
John          b.1844 Craig
George      b.1846 Craig
David        b.1849 Montrose
Robert       b.1850 Craig
Jessie        b.1856 Craig


Many thanks for any advice given.


EDIT:

Forgot to add this to my post. Interestingly James Stott's parents where a John Stott and an Ann(e) TINDAL Whether or not this is coincidence or significant I am not sure.


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Re: Janet/Jessie Nicoll of Craig Parish.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 22 July 24 17:07 BST (UK) »
I forgot to mention that I was able to find the death cert for Janet Nicol's (1812-1907) sister Jane Nicol (abt 1817-1889)

She was married to Robert Smith an Agri Labourer and died aged 73, Hillside, Parish of Montrose.  Her Father John Tindal Tailor (Journeyman) (deceased) and her Mother Jane Nicol MS Tindal (deceased)

I haven't had any luck so far finding the death certs for her other two sisters Margaret and Ann.

Ann shows on the 1851 Census listed as a Dressmaker aged 26 residing with her parents at Hillside of Hedderwick, Angus
Margaret married  John Stewart in 1835 in Laurencekirk and has at leat one son in 1836 name John Tindal Stwart.


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Re: Janet/Jessie Nicoll of Craig Parish.
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 25 August 24 00:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Snifferdog. Apologies for the delay in responding. Lovely to hear from a distant relative  :)

I've not had a look at the Nicol/Tindals for some time, but I too haven't managed to find any death info for Margaret and Ann, unfortunately. I will do some digging on them, but it's possible they died before the statutory registration began in 1855. I did have Margaret being married to a John Stewart but didn't have any info on her children, so thank you for that. I will add John Tindal Stewart to my tree. I'm not sure if her sister Ann married, but it's an area of my tree that I've not really researched of late. I think it's time I re-visited them.

Also, thank you for the info on your Youngs. I also didn't have that information. Your Janet (Jessie) Nicol Stott is the sibling of my 3x great-grandfather James Stott (1842 - 1924). He married Jane Easton in 1865 in Brechin and had the following children

Mary Stott 1866
Jane Stott 1870
Robina Keith Stott 1874
George Stott 1886

I can see that your Youngs also had a Robina  :)

Your information has been helpful. Thank you again.
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