Researching my great grandmother Catherine Ryan 1879

[casmith]

I think that’s gonna be the way. I’m also researching my great grandmother Catherine Ryan 1879, born Ballingarry, Tipp. Married my great grandfather JohnObrien. Can I find weddings cer, no!!!!! They were both from Ballingarry, immigrated to Manchester. I’ve got 1911 census, that’s it!!!!! Lived in Manchester England.

[heywood]

I can’t see them in Manchester in 1911

Do their birthplaces show in 1911 as Ballingarry?

When did they marry? Was that Ireland or Manchester?

I think I have them now.

[heywood]

No, I can’t see a marriage either.

I wonder if this is Kate’s birth- awful writing but number 291

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02950/2080676.pdf

[casmith]

It will not let me see the birth record. In the 1911 census they have been married for 3 years. Twins John & William 2 years, Joseph 7m. Two lodgers. Address 3 High Burton Street. I know Catherine had a sister Mary. I don’t understand why I cannot find a marriage cert. they were Roman Catholic.

[heywood]

Yes, I found them, thanks,

You usually have to solve a captcha and then you will get the page.
Did you get that?
Irish Genealogy is a free site- very helpful. You have to go through a bit of a process but as I say it is free to use.

[casmith]

Great thanks just opened it. Your right the writing is terrible, I’ve not seen that site before. I’ll have a look and see if this is correct, thanks 👍🏻

[heywood]

Are the ages in 1911 consistent with ages in any other records?

[casmith]

I have bothe death Certs of a John and Kate/Catherine. They are birthdate from them are within a year’ish. I know these are the correct death certs as they died on the same day but different years. Been to the grave as well.

[heywood]

So he was a few years younger?

Were the two boys twins, William and John? Do you have their birth records?