Author Topic: young offender  (Read 726 times)

Offline regina

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 57
    • View Profile
young offender
« on: Wednesday 31 January 18 19:24 GMT (UK) »
My g.grandfather, Albert Edward Moore was born in St. Pancras in 1866, one of 11 children of Jephthah and Jemima.  He is in the 1871 census at St.Pancras and then appears at Macclesfield Industrial School in the 1881 census.  Can anyone suggest where to look to find out why he was sent there?
Regina
 
Macclesfield - Potts, Ashness, Hooley, Haslam, Walton, Heapy, Hulme, Wildigg, Walton
Congleton - Cooke
Stockport - Whittingham, Sheppard
Ireland - Walton, Gain

Offline crisane

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,541
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: young offender
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 19:29 GMT (UK) »
This research guide on The National Archives site gives a link to the Cheshire Archives and Local Studies site where you can contact them directly to see what records they hold and whether they will be of any use to you.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ca1ce750-d8e0-41da-8d96-7ce75e822c10

Here is a previous thread on Rootschat about the school
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=56173.9

Offline KGarrad

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,918
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: young offender
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 22:37 GMT (UK) »
Some information here:
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/MacclesfieldIS/

At the bottom of the page are references to records.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

Offline brigidmac

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,490
  • Computer incompetent but stiil trying
    • View Profile
Re: young offender
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 23:13 GMT (UK) »
Children were sometimes sent to industrial schools because parents too poor or they were orphaned
Why do you believe he was a young offender ?
Do you know where his parents or siblings were then ?
Roberts,Fellman.Macdermid smith jones,Bloch,Irvine,Hallis Stevenson


Offline Bookbox

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,334
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: young offender
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 23:43 GMT (UK) »
One of the more common reasons for children to be sent to industrial schools, especially from London, was not in connection with a crime as such, but because of persistent non-attendance at school, in cases where the parent was unable to deal with it.

So it might be worth checking the newspapers for his father's name, to see if there had been a court summons over the boy's failure to attend school.

Offline regina

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 57
    • View Profile
Re: young offender
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 February 18 15:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all replies.  I have tried getting info from the industrial school records at Chester, but they have no information of specific pupils..  Albert wasn't an orphan as the parents and siblings were still around on the census.  The idea of playing truant seems feasible.  Any suggestions as to which papers would have any info. on that?
Macclesfield - Potts, Ashness, Hooley, Haslam, Walton, Heapy, Hulme, Wildigg, Walton
Congleton - Cooke
Stockport - Whittingham, Sheppard
Ireland - Walton, Gain

Offline Bookbox

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,334
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: young offender
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 February 18 17:06 GMT (UK) »
You might find something online at the British Newspaper Archive (free to search)
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/advanced

... or the same newspaper database (but not quite as up-to-date) is on FindMyPast
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search/british-newspapers

... or the Gale Cengage databases of British Library Newspapers, which may be available through your county library service.

A manual search isn’t really practical with the scant information that you have and no date.