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Re: John Stevenson married Christian Ormiston January 1826, Cambuslang, lLKS, SCT
« Reply #63 on: Sunday 12 May 19 17:02 BST (UK) »
My sister mafe a list of all the mining accidents for Stevensons which could be ours

date is when accident occurred

Alexander 1861 dykehead
Alexander 1881 new monkland
James 1849 ormiston
John 1871 sumerlee
Mr syevenso  1900 carbans
Robert 1859
And robert 1934 Stirlingshire
Roberts,Fellman.Macdermid smith jones,Bloch,Irvine,Hallis Stevenson

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Re: John Stevenson married Christian Ormiston January 1826, Cambuslang, lLKS, SCT
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 26 August 21 23:33 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I came across this post and saw quite a bit of good info.  My STEVENSON family has been a problem.  The oldest STEVENSON I am sure of is Thomas STEVENSON 1807? - 8 Jul 1876.  His death certificate named his parents as Thomas STEVENSON and Margaret HOPKIRK.  I could not find any record of these people and wondered if the information on his death certificate is incorrect.

After much searching I believe his parents were John STEVENSON and Margaret LOCHHEAD - they were married Nov 1797 in Carmunnoch and their children were:

William STEVENSON b. 1798 Carmunnoch
Elisabeth  b. 1801 Cambuslang
John b. 1803 Cambuslang
Ann Hopkirk b. 1805 Barony
Thomas b. 1807 Glasgow
Barbara Hopkirk b. 1809 Barony
Henry B. 1811 Barony

Does anybody have any info on this John and Margaret LOCHHEAD STEVENSON?  I am not having any luck in finding their death certificates.

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Re: John Stevenson married Christian Ormiston January 1826, Cambuslang, lLKS, SCT
« Reply #65 on: Friday 27 August 21 12:23 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat :)

After much searching I believe his parents were John STEVENSON and Margaret LOCHHEAD
Unfortunately you can prove that they were not. See the attached extract from the death certificate of Thomas Stevenson, son of Thomas (probably an error for John) S and Margaret Lochhead.

However there must be a reason why two of the children of John S and Margaret Lochhead were given the middle name Hopkirk. Could their father John perhaps have been a brother of your Thomas Stevenson?
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Re: John Stevenson married Christian Ormiston January 1826, Cambuslang, lLKS, SCT
« Reply #66 on: Friday 27 August 21 13:03 BST (UK) »
On second thoughts ....

Thomas Stevenson and Elizabeth Sloan are in the 1861 census at Ardmalush, North Bute. Thomas' age is given as 46, which suggests he was born in 1814/1815, and he was born in North Bute, as were his children Thomas, 12; Elizabeth, 11 and James, 8. His wife was born in Renfrewshire.

There is a death of Elizabeth Stevenson, daughter of Thomas Stevenson and Janet Lochhead, in North Bute in 1879, and a James with the same parents in the same district in 1876.

So there seem to be three couples
John Stevenson and Margaret Lochhead, married in Carmunnock in 1797
Thomas Stevenson and Janet Lochhead, married in Neilston in 1798
Thomas Stevenson and Margaret Hopkirk.

Therefore the one in Bute is a red herring, for which my apologies.

Errors do occur on death certificates but could Thomas' son really have got his own mother's maiden surname and the given names of both his parents wrong?
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Re: John Stevenson married Christian Ormiston January 1826, Cambuslang, lLKS, SCT
« Reply #67 on: Friday 27 August 21 13:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks great to discuss this!
I noticed the other Stevenson - Lochhead couple in North Bute too. 

And I wonder if the Margaret Hopkirk name on Thomas' death certificate was a red herring as perhaps as two of his Thomas' sisters had Hopkirk as a middle given name and his son wasn't sure of his gran's maiden name.  (My mum on my gran's death certificate gave my gran's mother's name as Mary McGregor born Aberdeen when she was Louisa McGregor born Ayrshire)   

I am not sure where HOPKIRK comes from - perhaps from living in Dalbeth and working on the Hopkirk estate?


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Re: John Stevenson married Christian Ormiston January 1826, Cambuslang, lLKS, SCT
« Reply #68 on: Friday 27 August 21 18:01 BST (UK) »
I wonder if the Margaret Hopkirk name on Thomas' death certificate was a red herring as perhaps as two of his Thomas' sisters had Hopkirk as a middle given name and his son wasn't sure of his gran's maiden name.
Very possible, but he also got his grandfather's given name wrong, which is more difficult to explain.
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Re: John Stevenson married Christian Ormiston January 1826, Cambuslang, lLKS, SCT
« Reply #69 on: Friday 27 August 21 22:47 BST (UK) »
I forgot to add that Thomas STEVENSON (1807? -1876) was married to Janet YOUNG and had the following children:

John Stevenson  1838 - ?
Alexander Stevenson 1840 - 1911
Thomas Stevenson 1843-1855
Margaret Stevenson 1845 - 1908
Janet Young Stevenson 1848-1851
Barbara Henry Stevenson 1850 - ?
Janet Stevenson 1856 - ?

The names match the traditional Scottish naming pattern if Thomas' father was John (Janet's father was Alexander)

I descend from Margaret Stevenson 1845 - 1908 (who curiously moved with her husband and children to Bute sometime between 1891 and 1901)