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Re: Robert Jones, Llanelidan, mid 1800s
« Reply #36 on: Friday 26 January 18 17:30 GMT (UK) »
I think you're right. It would be pronounced  Caerthinen or Carthinen - very similar to Garthinan.

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Re: Robert Jones, Llanelidan, mid 1800s
« Reply #37 on: Friday 26 January 18 17:34 GMT (UK) »
And in the 1871 census Robert and Margaret are at Bryn Melyn !

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Re: Robert Jones, Llanelidan, mid 1800s
« Reply #38 on: Friday 26 January 18 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Re David Jones and Susannah Jones, then they're on the 1851 census at Llanbedr Farm, Llanbedr. David is from Llanelidan but it's not quite clear where Susannah is from. At that time David is 60 and Susannah is 39. Might be that David was previously married ? 

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Re: Robert Jones, Llanelidan, mid 1800s
« Reply #39 on: Friday 26 January 18 18:16 GMT (UK) »
I think the likeliest interpretation of Susanna's birthplace is a form of Ditto(for Denbighshire) followed by Cerrigydruidion.

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Re: Robert Jones, Llanelidan, mid 1800s
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 15:29 GMT (UK) »
This probably won't help, but there is a Garthinen in Gwyddelwern and also Llandrillo
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Re: Robert Jones, Llanelidan, mid 1800s
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 15:41 GMT (UK) »
This probably won't help, but there is a Garthinen in Gwyddelwern and also Llandrillo
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I'm not sure if you've read the whole thread but this was mentioned by HT a few pages ago:

Welshnewspapers online has "Garthinen, Llandrillo" and "Garthinen, Gwyddelwern"

 The problem is that Robert Jones is consistent in his statements on marriage cert and censuses that he was born in and lived in the parish of  Llanelidan.

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Re: Robert Jones, Llanelidan, mid 1800s
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 16:58 GMT (UK) »
In the light of the previous speculation here is a very interesting snippet for an 1882 marriage of John Hughes,Caerddinen,to Margaret Jones,Garthgynen( or less likely,Garthgynea?).is she the daughter of Robert and Margaret?

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4589611/4589616/11/

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Re: Robert Jones, Llanelidan, mid 1800s
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 17:05 GMT (UK) »
1871 = RG10/5663/24/2 at Bryn Melyn, Llanelidan

They do have a daughter Margaret, b. c. 1860.

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Re: Robert Jones, Llanelidan, mid 1800s
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 31 January 18 18:04 GMT (UK) »
The only Garthgynan I can find is in Lanfair Dyffryn Clwyd(approx.postcode LL15 2EP),so it is possibly just a coincidence of names.

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