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Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 28 December 17 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage?
Sep 1846 West Ham 12 421
Read, Thomas
Wetherell, Charlotte

Newspapers, August 1846
Aug. 18, at Wanstead Church, Thomas Read, Esq., of Wanstead, to Charlotte, second daughter of the late John Allen, Esq., R.N.

Anyone got access to SEAX?

First marriage of Charlotte?
2 January 1836, Lee, Kent
Robert William Wetherell + Charlotte Allen

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Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 28 December 17 17:51 GMT (UK) »
1858 Q3 Marriage - George Glanfield & Emily Frances Read; West Ham; 04a; 44

Possibly at Woodford St Mary
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Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 28 December 17 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Well found Jon.  It would be good to see an original copy of the wedding certificate (not one of the transcribed versions the GRO sell) then we could see if this Thomas Read signed his own name or not.

If he did, then the X-signature of the Thomas Read who witnessed brother George's marriage, would probably be father Thomas Read.     MAYBE, we could then rule out any marriage where Thomas Read signed his own name.

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Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 28 December 17 18:00 GMT (UK) »
1858 Q3 Marriage - George Glanfield & Emily Frances Read; West Ham; 04a; 44

Possibly at Woodford St Mary
http://surname-society.org/marriage-finder/

married: 08 Sep 1858; St Mary the Virgin, Woodford
groom: George Glanfield; 23; bach; tailor; St Matthews, Bethnal Green
bride: Emily Frances Read; 20; spin -; Woodford
grooms father: George Glanfield; tailor
brides father: Thomas Read; draper
witnesses: Thomas Read, Clara? ? Read, John Read

The second witness signature is difficult to read, could be Charles something.
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Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 28 December 17 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage?
Sep 1846 West Ham 12 421
Read, Thomas
Wetherell, Charlotte

Newspapers, August 1846
Aug. 18, at Wanstead Church, Thomas Read, Esq., of Wanstead, to Charlotte, second daughter of the late John Allen, Esq., R.N.

Anyone got access to SEAX?

First marriage of Charlotte?
2 January 1836, Lee, Kent
Robert William Wetherell + Charlotte Allen


married: 18 Aug 1846; St Mary the Virgin, Wanstead
groom: Thomas Read; fa; bach; draper; Wanstead
bride: Charlotte Wetherell; fa; wid; -; St Paul, Deptford
grooms father: Thomas Read; silk weaver
brides father: John Allen; mariner, Royal Navy
witnesses: May? Mussey?, William Green?


The signatures of the groom Thomas Read match that of the witness on the marriage record of Emily Frances Read to George Glanfield.


Good work Jon.
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Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 28 December 17 18:19 GMT (UK) »
That's a very useful find cuffie.   So, I suppose, we can assume that the Thomas Read signature is the brother born 1813/14.  Could the middle signature be Charlotte?

I've just been trying to look at the Thomas and Charlotte wedding at Wanstead on SEAX

The image comes up, but too small for me to read.  Unless I do the right thing and pay for it!  I can't make out whether it's Thomas's signature, or says "mark of ...."

But with your find, it looks like it doesn't matter.

ADDED    Didn't see your post above cuffie         This post is now irrelevant

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Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #69 on: Thursday 28 December 17 18:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, well done, but at same time just which Thomas was the father of Emily Frances Read b 1838?
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Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 28 December 17 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, well done, but at same time just which Thomas was the father of Emily Frances Read b 1838?
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It could just be a red herring and not related. I couldn't find any corresponding baptism or 1841 census record. It feels kinda right but doesn't quite add up.
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Re: THOMAS READ AND WIFE ELIZABETH ? BETHNAL GREEN
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 28 December 17 18:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, something doesn't appear right, like the Glanfield/Read marriage one of the witnesses was a John Read do we know of him?
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