Help researching eveline shulman

[isobelw]

Do you think this might be her again? Note the name Barrett. This was July 1932.
Isobel

[aghadowey]

Looks more than likely, Isobel 

Have been doing a bit more digging and found living relatives of David Joseph Shulman 

Also lots more tidbits which might bring up more questions 

[heywood]

Looks like her Isobel.

I can’t find the tree Dundee, does it give any hint re Evelyn?

[Dundee]

I can’t find the tree Dundee, does it give any hint re Evelyn?

Just search for Bertram JOHNSON with spouse Phyllis MILES.  They appear to be related to the second marriage of Bertram.

Debra 

[aghadowey]

Well, where to start? How about with Annie O'Brien/Shulman/Barratt/Johnson, etc. Certainly a busy woman.

Advertisements in Aberdeen Press & Journal from March 1908 until Sept.1912 call her Madame Zena (perhaps a form of Rosina?) Barratt telling fortunes, reading a crystal ball, etc. Dates fit with David Shulman, wife Annie, nephew Fred O'Brien* and 'adopted daughter Eveline Shulman' living in Aberdeen at time of 1911 census. (wonder if 'nephew' is actually Annie's illegitimate child). In May 1912 she has 'returned from Edinburgh.' Then in Feb.1913 a 'first visit to Dundee' (sort of working holiday?).
Next trace, so far, is in 1921 in England where (in a very short space of time it would seem) David Shulman dies (registered Jan./Mar. quarter), Annie appears in court (newspaper 6 Apr.) and Annie marries (16 Apr.) Bertram Johnson.

So, why did Annie stop spate of advertising in Aberdeen paper. Was she in some sort of trouble with the law?

* possibly Frederick O'Brien birth registered 1905 Tradeston district

[dorothyl]

My grans  birth  is 26th of February 1911.
But what I did  is this and perhaps  I might have  done the sums wrong.

My mum always  told us our grandparents  dob's.  My gran  eveline.  Was born 26/02/11.
But if I took away  the age she was married   ( the year she got married  to my grandad Alfred evan Jones - 1933 )

I came up with the year was 1909. Which I thought  might be wrong year of her birth. 
In 1933 my gran was 24 years old  and my grandad  was  19. I took  his age off also  and I got he was born in 1914.

Which is all very confusing.  Because  my mum  said her dad  was born 1910 and her mum was born 1911.
My gran passed away  1998 age 87. She passed away on the 3rd of April  in Stirling  Scotland..  in the royal infirmary hospital Stirling. At  21.30. 

[dorothyl]

I don't know if this is allowed  or if it is my gran.
I just hope I've found something.   And the group can see it.

Thank you

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[maddys52]

What an amazing amount of research has occurred in the 24 hours or so that I was away! Trying to absorb it all now to see if I can add anything ...

[BumbleB]

According to the tree for Eveline Hill - she was born in Stockton on 7 December 1907, never married and died in Yorkshire at the age of 81.  However, 1939 says that she married in 1945   

Added:  death entry confirms the 1939 information - plus all registrations are in the name of Evelyn, rather than Eveline.  1911 census entry is the only one to show as Eveline.