Help researching eveline shulman

[rosie99]

I saved it then read it as it was too wide to read easily on my small screen 

I note from the marriage certificate that Eveline was five years older than her husband. I wonder if she was actually even older than she claimed and knocked a few years off her age when she married.
Isobel

It would not surprise me if her age was adjusted on marriage and afterwards 

[heywood]

Very interesting finds. 

Is there an Aberdeen birth for Eva/Evelyn?

[dorothyl]

Hi isobelw.
 It's ok  I can see  it. Thank you.
 It was a shock when I saw  it. A photo to a face  at least I can imagine what my great grandad looked like.
They say the sons  look like  there  fathers.
Thank you again

[jonwarrn]

5 weeks would be about the right age, if there was an enumerator error. And the nephew above was also 5. It does say Eva was at school though.

What happened to Annie O'Brien/Shulman/Johnson?
Baptism which could match the details Rosie gave from marriage
India Births and Baptisms
Anne O'Brien
bap 27 Jan 1878, Lucknow, Bengal, India
born 19 Jan 1878
father Thomas
mother Margaret

Was born Lucknow on census.

[PaulineJ]

I think the consensus is that Eveline conceivably fibbed about her age at marriage and she could well be the Aberdeen-born 5 y old in the 1911 census back at post 33-ish.

If she started fibbing only on marriage, she would have been old enough to vote in 1928? (Ie 21y) Any sign on electoral rolls? (Looks like an in person search)

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/directory_record/212379/electoral_registers/category/1367/view_all_collections

[Dundee]

Aberdeen St Nicholas
Dav Jos Schulman Head 29 Reporter (Newspaper), Worker, born Manchester England
Annie Schulman Wife 33 Palmiste?, Own Account, born Lucknow India
Fred O'Brien Nephew 5 School, born Glasgow
Eva Barrett Schulman Adoptd Daur 5, born Aberdeen Aberdeen

This Eva is indicated as not being David SCHULMAN's biological daughter.

Debra 

[Dundee]

Aberdeen St Nicholas
Dav Jos Schulman Head 29 Reporter (Newspaper), Worker, born Manchester England
Annie Schulman Wife 33 Palmiste?, Own Account, born Lucknow India
Fred O'Brien Nephew 5 School, born Glasgow
Eva Barrett Schulman Adoptd Daur 5, born Aberdeen Aberdeen

Fortune tellers often appear in news items as being fraudulent and there is an article about Annie - can anyone see the full article?

6 April 1921 - Lancashire Evening Post - Preston, Lancashire,

"DIPPING INTO THE FUTURE. WHAT A FORTUNE-TELLER TOLD CONSTABLE’S WlFE.
At the Manchester County Police Court, yesterday, Annie Shulman (41). of 83, Chorlton road, Brooks’s Bar, Manchester, was charged with pretending to tell fortunes, Mrs. Baiiey, wife of....."

Debra 

[solidrock]

WOW. I go and sleep and wake up to find 5 more pages, this will take some time to digest but as far as I can see we are no nearer finding  Eveline's  birth. 

[amondg]

Dundee you are assuming David Jos Schulman gave the information for the census.

If his wife was the informant, then adopted daughter would be the answer she would give.

I've been door to door as a census taker when the paperwork was not returned or was incomplete.