Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not

[DavyTee68]

I still think he left the family and perhaps changed his name, so is buried using that name and that is why he can't be found.

Unfortunately re John's birth certificate naming him as father that doesn't mean 100% that he was.

So you don't think that was the correct William Turner in Medomsley on the 1908 electoral register?

1908 electoral register
Polling District Hamsterley
Medomsley
William Turner
place of abode 5 Hamsterley Colliery

John George Turner last born child of William and Martha
Address given for birth is 5 Dene Row, Hamsterly Colliery, Medomsley, Durham. 25th July 1907

Yeah John I would say that's the same William definatly.

[DavyTee68]

I've spent the last two days going through the Burial records for the cemeteries in that area and Sunderland in case he ended up there with family and no trace from 1907 till 1954.
It would be handy to see when Martha Married James Smith as this could give us a clue as to when William may have died. She is called wife of James Brown on the burial record so i take it they got married.
I still personally think William was around in 1911 due to the word widow being added later and the fact she states married 18 years which was how long the marriage was up to 1911.
I've still to check prison records but Durham Records office is closed for Christmas so that'll have to wait.
Just got a feeling he may have been there as he was a bit of a bugger.

[Jomot]

I'm happy to be proved wrong, but I don't think that Martha & James actually married. I cant find any record to match and I still think it odd that her death notice has Turner in brackets.

[LizzieL]

I'm happy to be proved wrong, but I don't think that Martha & James actually married. I cant find any record to match and I still think it odd that her death notice has Turner in brackets.

I can't find a marriage either, not in England and Wales records anyway. Might have popped across the border to Scotland, though.

[DavyTee68]

I'm happy to be proved wrong, but I don't think that Martha & James actually married. I cant find any record to match and I still think it odd that her death notice has Turner in brackets.

I can't find a marriage either, not in England and Wales records anyway. Might have popped across the border to Scotland, though.

I shall see what I can find on Gretna Green records if any

[DavyTee68]

Going back many pages I mentioned that on my Grandfather Marriage cert he gives his father's occupation as a miner rather than saying deceased as many other marriage certs I have say.
Could this be relevant or was he as stupid as his father.
Date was 1928

[rosie99]

The clergy probably just asked him for his fathers name and occupation.    I doubt that he would ask him if he was dead or alive 

[DavyTee68]

The clergy probably just asked him for his fathers name and occupation.    I doubt that he would ask him if he was dead or alive 

I have numerous marriage certs including my own on wife's side where it states father deceased just thought it was something that one would mention

[rosie99]

Depends how chatty they are when they are filling in the form    It is not a question that is generally asked.