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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #162 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 14:25 GMT (UK) »
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Newcastle Evening Chronicle 21 November 1944
BROWN. Greenside, 2 Landsale Houses. 20th. 74. Martha Isabella (Turner) wife James (late Hamsterley Coll). Inter. Ryton. Thurs. Friends meet cem. 2.45

Is this saying she was buried in Ryton ? As if so i'll have a pop over there on Wednesday and see if William is hanging around there also.

Yes, she is at Ryton Cemetery. The record is on Durham Records Online. Bear in mind the a significant number of people have no grave marker. It depended on what the family could afford.

DRO has the Records for Ryton Cemetery from 1884 to 1998, and I can’t see any burial for William.
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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #163 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 14:28 GMT (UK) »
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Newcastle Evening Chronicle 21 November 1944
BROWN. Greenside, 2 Landsale Houses. 20th. 74. Martha Isabella (Turner) wife James (late Hamsterley Coll). Inter. Ryton. Thurs. Friends meet cem. 2.45

Is this saying she was buried in Ryton ? As if so i'll have a pop over there on Wednesday and see if William is hanging around there also.

Yes, she is at Ryton Cemetery. The record is on Durham Records Online. Bear in mind the a significant number of people have no grave marker. It depended on what the family could afford.

DRO has the Records for Ryton Cemetery from 1884 to 1998, and I can’t see any burial for William.

Thanks Jen
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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #164 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 14:36 GMT (UK) »
By the way, Durham Records Online is a useful source of information via its free index. For instance it is easy to find Martha's burial because the free index includes her address.
https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php well worth bookmarking  ;)
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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #165 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 15:17 GMT (UK) »
By the way, Durham Records Online is a useful source of information via its free index. For instance it is easy to find Martha's burial because the free index includes her address.
https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php well worth bookmarking  ;)

I can only see ones I have to pay £1.50
Am I doing something wrong ?
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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #166 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 15:29 GMT (UK) »
By the way, Durham Records Online is a useful source of information via its free index. For instance it is easy to find Martha's burial because the free index includes her address.
https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php well worth bookmarking  ;)

I can only see ones I have to pay £1.50
Am I doing something wrong ?

It's a pay-per-view site.
But if you search for a burial of a Martha Isabella Brown in 1944 it appears on the results page (which you don't have to pay for) complete with the same address as in the newspaper article.
The newspaper article stated burial at Ryton*. It has to be at the cemetery as opposed to the churchyard because DRO only has Ryton churchyard burials up to 1867.

Also, I've just noticed, it also says 'meet at cem[etery]  :D

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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #167 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 15:52 GMT (UK) »
You are in luck, because you can see Martha's burial at Ryton on FamilySearch
entry 4291
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ7-H9DL-5?i=245&cat=825165

And the graves register, section L grave 49, shows that James Brown is buried with her
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ7-H983-D?i=777&cat=825165

DRO has the burial (somewhere!) of
George William Turner, 1895, age 0, 39 Hamsterley Colliery
but seemingly not those of his siblings
Albert Turner, presumably died Lanchester 1899, age 0
Frederick Turner, 1904, age 3

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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #168 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 16:21 GMT (UK) »
You are in luck, because you can see Martha's burial at Ryton on FamilySearch
entry 4291
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ7-H9DL-5?i=245&cat=825165

And the graves register, section L grave 49, shows that James Brown is buried with her
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ7-H983-D?i=777&cat=825165


Better and better!

Trying to find William Peverall Turner with Mary Ann in 1911 census and failing miserably.
Can anyone see it ?

We are only allowed to do 1911 look-ups via the free index. I can’t see anything promising.
There are some trees for him on Ancestry and they don’t seem to have found him in 1911. The newspaper article about his 1911 court case mentioned that he lived with his in-laws in Hutton Street but I can’t find anything from searching on that either.
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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #169 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 17:08 GMT (UK) »
You are in luck, because you can see Martha's burial at Ryton on FamilySearch
entry 4291
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ7-H9DL-5?i=245&cat=825165

And the graves register, section L grave 49, shows that James Brown is buried with her
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ7-H983-D?i=777&cat=825165

DRO has the burial (somewhere!) of
George William Turner, 1895, age 0, 39 Hamsterley Colliery
but seemingly not those of his siblings
Albert Turner, presumably died Lanchester 1899, age 0
Frederick Turner, 1904, age 3


Thanks John

I didn't know about George or Albert so that's a bonus thanks
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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #170 on: Tuesday 12 December 17 17:17 GMT (UK) »
By the way, Durham Records Online is a useful source of information via its free index. For instance it is easy to find Martha's burial because the free index includes her address.
https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php well worth bookmarking  ;)

I can only see ones I have to pay £1.50
Am I doing something wrong ?

It's a pay-per-view site.
But if you search for a burial of a Martha Isabella Brown in 1944 it appears on the results page (which you don't have to pay for) complete with the same address as in the newspaper article.
The newspaper article stated burial at Ryton*. It has to be at the cemetery as opposed to the churchyard because DRO only has Ryton churchyard burials up to 1867.

Also, I've just noticed, it also says 'meet at cem[etery]  :D

 ;D Thank you Jen
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