Phoebe Aston - Name before marriage.

[Tramore]

Can anybody help me find the premarriage surname for Phoebe Aston born 1831 and married to John Aston as shown in the 1871 Census with a daughter Elizabeth Aston aged 10. There are no details for the 1861 Census and the 1851 Census shows John and Phoebe Aston with a son Richard Aston aged 1 as lodgers in the Cheshire family in Wolverhampton. I cannot find any trace of Phoebe before this and would like to trace her family back before she married John Aston because Elizabeth Aston was the mother of my grandfather Thomas Bacon.

[avm228]

Have you searched for the children's birth registrations to see what mother's maiden name was recorded?

You haven't said what birthplaces are stated for the children in the censuses.

[heywood]

Hello,

GRO indexes https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp
Shows an Elizabeth Aston b 1859, Wolverhampton with mmn Cheshire which may be significant. There are several in the same area though so will have another look.
The indexes are free to search and useful. You have to register though.

Heywood

[avm228]

The family is in Wolverhampton in 1861 with children Caroline 6, Mary 4, Elizabeth 2, John 2mo.

RG9/1994/75/22 ("Asson" on Ancestry)

[rosie99]

Possible
Marriages Mar qtr 1848 
Aston    John
Cheshire    Phoebe Hartshorn       
Wolverhampton    17   338   

[chempat]

Just to point out that the son Richard in 1851 was born in Scotland.

[bbart]

GRO indexes https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp
Shows an Elizabeth Aston b 1859, Wolverhampton with mmn Cheshire which may be significant. There are several in the same area though so will have another look.
The indexes are free to search and useful. You have to register though.

Heywood

As a follow-up so we aren't repeating each other's searches, GRO also shows a Caroline Aston, born 3 quarter of 1854 in Wolverhampton with a mother's maiden name of Cheshire.

It's starting to look like they were lodging with her relatives!

[trish1120]

Marriage;
25 January 1848, St. Peter'S, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Phoebe Hartshorn CHESHIRE age 17, Father RICHARD Cheshire
John ASTON, age 30, Father THOMAS Aston
(Source Familysearch.Org)


Trish

EDIT also on FreeREG John is age 20 on there, occp Puddler, his Father Thomas a Labourer.
Phoebes Father Richard is a Trunkmaker.

Just about to check Census for Johns age!

[trish1120]

Phoebe was born before the Marriage of her Parents;

Marriage;
25 April 1832, St Peters, Wolverhampton
Richard CHESHIRE to Hannah HARTSHORNE

Baptism same Church;
10 Feb 1831
PHOEBE Hartshorn, Mother HANNAH

1841 Census
Richard Chened   30
Hannah Chened   29
PHOEBE Chened 10******
Sarah Chened   4
Thomas Chened   4
Joseph Chened   2