Irish Ancestry

[Mobo]

 

Castlebar  - County Mayo

 

[ellen1]

mobo thankyou i have posted a querie on the limerick board and got a reply, i am ging to dublin in nov. with my daughter so i will visit the gro there as gro here in scotland said thats were i will get my granparents papers thankyou.  ellen

[Graham Whitehead]

Some of my Irish ancestors arrived in Manchester prior to 1818.
Commencing 1818 their children were baptized in the RC Church in Manchester, which I found by using a researcher. From various marriage certificates it appears that their father's were all born in "Ireland" 
I assume that they must have arrived early in the century. Does anyone know if there was a catastrophic reason for the Irish leaving their country prior to the potato famine, and also the general areas they could have originated from? My names occur throughout Ireland, but I thought perhaps Dublin might be a good place to start.
Without birth references, census, LDS, only their names to go, on I am interested in how other people have started their research, as to me it is just one big brick wall.
Pat

Hello Pat
Sadly I don't think I can help much because I am in a similar position to yourself. My Irish came from Dublin to Coventry c.1820 and looking at the 1861 Census there are a number of Irish who seem to apopear around the same time.  I am beginning to list them to see whether I can make any sense of the mirgration. Like yourself I am curious, but books I have read  (e.g. Bloody Foreigners by Robert Winder suggest they have always come over to England and another I read more recently said prior to the setting up of the Irish Free State in the 1920's England & Ireland were virtually one country.  Anyone who can tell us more on this fascinating topic, please enlighten!
Graham

[Mobo]

mobo thankyou i have posted a querie on the limerick board and got a reply, i am ging to dublin in nov. with my daughter so i will visit the gro there as gro here in scotland said thats were i will get my granparents papers thankyou.  ellen

That's great ellen,

I'm sure you'll enjoy your visit in November - fingers crossed that you get the information you need to find your 'Irish'

 

[Patk]

Dear Graham

Thank you for that. I know we are not alone in our quest, but it will not be easy, unless in one of the census's one of our rellys has the forsight to give the place of origin, rather than just Ireland.
To this end I have searched some of the earlier ones, eg. 1851, as well as I could, without result, and to make it worse my ancestors regarded themselves as English! Apparently, and according to my mother, there was a great deal of discrimination by employers to employ people straight off the boat so to speak. So, they tended to hide their Irishness and accents, especially if they were in business on their own account. My Grannie did not have an Irish accent, for example, and her grandfather was born in Ireland.
I like to think that they would be amused at our very serious endeavors to trace their ancestors! but I wish one or two of them would take pity and give us a hint.
I do wish you every success and if I do get a lead on why they came out early in the century, and from where, I will let you know.
Regards
Pat

[Mobo]

 

Graham,

There are a great many books and articles written on Irish Emigration, but you might find the link below of interest.

http://www.gober.net/victorian/reports/irish2.html

 

[Mobo]

 

And if you're really 'into' learning more about Irish Emigration you could try

http://www.swan.ac.uk/history/teaching/teaching%20resources/An%20Gorta%20Mor/index.html

 

[Calgarian]

Hi Mobo

When you refer to the IGI, do you mean the IGI on Family Search or something else

[Mobo]

Hi Mobo

When you refer to the IGI, do you mean the IGI on Family Search or something else

Yes Cal,

The IGI on Family Search