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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #126 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 19:00 BST (UK) »
Having successfully done the maternal side of my family to the early 1700's (all from Britain), the paternal side has proved very frustrating and difficult.
 My gt. grandparents (Patrick b. 1826 and Rose Harvey (nee McNally) b. 1831 in County Armagh and went to England  1861/1862.  They were Catholic.  Their first 4 children were born in County Armagh and the rest were born in Leigh, Lancashire.  Needless to say no problems until I have to look in Ireland. 
I go into Rootschat regularly and have tried every website that readers post but so far have had no luck.  I am on the point of giving up.  As I live in Canada I can't just pop over to Ireland but if anyone out there could help I would really appreciate it.

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« Reply #127 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 22:21 BST (UK) »
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Ellen

Unfortunately, the Limerick Heritage Centre, (which would have been your first starting point) is temporarily closed, due to lack of funding.  But they say they hope to open again in the future

Limerick Ancestry
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Ireland


In the meantime, I suggest you post your query on the Limerick Board and I'm sure someone there will help you find your 'Irish'.

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BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

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« Reply #128 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 22:26 BST (UK) »
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Hi Calgarian

Knowing the County of origin and religion is half the battle, so if I were you, I'd contact the Armagh Heritage Centre who I'm sure will be able to help.

County Armagh Genealogy - Armagh Ancestry
38A English Street
Armagh
Co Armagh
Northern Ireland
BT61 7BA

Tel: + + 44 2837 521802


ancestry [at] armagh.gov.uk

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BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

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« Reply #129 on: Thursday 25 August 05 05:44 BST (UK) »
Dear Ellen

I think you are luckier than most in that you actually do know the area your folk came from.
Have you thought of researching your family back from your grandparents in Scotland. Census or parish records etc to see how far you can go back in Scotland on both sides you can trace them, this might give you some idea of the dates you would be looking at when they arrived from Ireland, and the estimated year they were born. For example, you cannot assume unless you know for sure that your family were born in Ireland because they have Irish names.
I cannot help you with your search in Ireland, but I can tell you that is surprising how earlier in the 17th century some of these hard working people arrived. I just put, for example, John McShane at random on LDS, and I am not saying this is yours as this is a common name, as is O'Neil:
JOHN MCSHANE 
  Marriages:
  Spouse:  MARY MULVANY  Family
  Marriage:  11 OCT 1875   Dundee, Angus, Scotland
You say you are new and I think you have made a good start by having certificates, so one other aid you do is by entering them, and of course you, sequentially with dates, on a spreadsheet or wordprocessing document and see how you go on and where the gaps are. Dates of birth, place of birth, names, where married, to whom, place of marriage etc. That is how I started. and I researched mine to when they were born in Ireland, and then came to a thudding stop!
I do wish you the very best of luck with your family history,
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« Reply #130 on: Thursday 25 August 05 14:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mobo

I e-mailed Armagh Ancestry a few months ago but did not get any reply.

I will give it another try.

Good luck to everyone having the same problem.

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« Reply #131 on: Thursday 25 August 05 14:56 BST (UK) »
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Thanks Mobo
I e-mailed Armagh Ancestry a few months ago but did not get any reply.

That's bad Calgarian, I should certainly e-mail them again if I were you, in the meantime, you could try posting a request for help on the 'Ireland' Board .

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BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

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« Reply #132 on: Thursday 25 August 05 15:11 BST (UK) »
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Thanks Mobo
I e-mailed Armagh Ancestry a few months ago but did not get any reply.

That's bad Calgarian, I should certainly e-mail them again if I were you, in the meantime, you could try posting a request for help on the 'Ireland' Board .

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I have asked for help on every board I can find without success.  I have just e-mailed Armagh Ancestry again.  (fingers crossed).


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« Reply #133 on: Thursday 25 August 05 15:57 BST (UK) »
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Calgarian

Just found on the IGI
Patrick HARVEY
born 22 July 1865
Newry, Co. Armagh
Mother: Rose HARVEY


Could he be one of yours ?  Did they definitely arrive in England 1861/62 ?

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BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

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« Reply #134 on: Thursday 25 August 05 16:45 BST (UK) »
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Calgarian

Just found on the IGI
Patrick HARVEY
born 22 July 1865
Newry, Co. Armagh
Mother: Rose HARVEY


Could he be one of yours ?  Did they definitely arrive in England 1861/62 ?

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Is it coincidence?

Patrick and Rose Harvey had a son Patrick born 1859 in Co. Armagh.
Their 5th child Peter was born in 1861 in Co. Armagh but their 6th child Bernard was born in 1864 in Leigh, Lancs.  All this according to the 1871 England Census.  So they must have moved from Ireland to England 1861 - 1864.