Irish Ancestry

[Mobo]

 

A fishmarket in County Galway

 

[Patk]

Dear Mobo
Thanks so much for the picture of The Hidden Gem. Can I use it? You are so right it was Deansgate.
I knew something about the meadows etc in Manchester.
I do not think that it really became a slum until after the advent of the cotton mills and workers from all over Lancashire, Yorkshire and, of course, Ireland crowded in to live in inadequate houses and cellars.
I enjoyed the sites you have recommended, thank you again.
Pat

[Mobo]

 

Yes Pat,

Of course you can use the image.  And yes, this part of Manchester was very 'well to do' before the advent of the Industrial Revolution.   In fact,  an ancestor of mine is recorded as living there in the Palatine Notebook of Manchester of 1640 -
"William Williamson, who late in Autumn removed to a house he had built in Newton, later moved to the Warden’s house on Deansgate………..a self-styled gentleman by 1674, he died in 1689"

And this is how the area looked then

Christ Church (later to become Manchester Cathedral) is visible to the left, and the road to the right of this is Deansgate.  Over the River Irwell lies Sargeant Street, Salford (later to become Chapel Street), on which stands Sacred Trinity Church.

[Mobo]

 

Sorry, I am digressing - let's get back to the subject of Irish Ancestry.

 

[Patk]

Dear Mobo,

Thank you so much for the picture. Also, for showing us what Manchester/Salford looked like in 1660. I had no idea the open spaces were quite as much as that. So, two hundred years later the landscape was so devastatingly altered to the lines of streets, boarding houses and public houses we are familiar with.
The Commonwealth Games and a lovely calendar my niece sent me, of the inner city has to some extent  given me some insight to the improvements that are taking place. The buildings now look a lot cleaner, and architecturally wonderful, without the industrial smog too.
Thank you again,
Pat

[Taidquest]

Sorry Louise,

I should have made myself more clear.  Irish stamps are, of course, for the S.A.E.'s, essential if you are to receive a reply.

In answer to your other query:-

Compulsory civil registration of non-Roman Catholic marriages began on April 1st, 1845, then the registration of all births, deaths and marriages commenced on January 1st, 1864.

The General Register Office (GRO), which was located in Dublin, but is now in Roscommon, holds copies of all civil records for the whole of Ireland, from the commencement of registration, up to and including the year 1921.

The General Register Office
Government Offices
Convent Road
Roscommon  

Tel: 090 6632900

 

http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm.

hi, i have just copied this link from the joyce house website ,although there is a mention of registration office moving to roscommon ,joyce house is still there and according to the website still open for research.hope this helps anyone who has also heard that it is closed . as it is difficult enough for researchers to get to dublin (still our capital city i hope) without having to then travel to roscommon,although there is a website for the roscommon records i've forgotten the addy'.
                                                                    regards anne

[ellen1]

i too am having difficulty finding my irish roots all i know is my gran katherine o neil was born in limerick southern ireland i dont know when she came to scotland but she married my grandad matthew mc shane on 12th july 1907 in st. johns rc chapel in barrhead my dad john was born on 3rd oct. 1907 you will see my gran was pregnant before she married which then wasnt good especialy being irish catholic maybe thats why she left ireland i dont know if my grandad came from ireland all i have been able to trace is their marriage lines i got the info. from my dads bithlines my grans parents were william o neil he is down as deceased on my grandparents marriage lines and her mum was mary o neil ms scullion my grandads parents were john mc shane he was also deceased when they married and his mum was called mary mc shane ms cavnah i am not sure if they were all from ireland but going by their names they proberly were as they are all irish catholic names i never knew my grandparents on my dads side as they both died in 1958 when i was 3yrs old my dad never spoke about his parents and i didnt ask as he was a very private person i have tried to get birthlines here in glasgow for them but there are no record for them i would be grateful if their is someone out there could give me some info. on what to do .  yours gratefuly   ellen

[ellen1]

i too am having difficulty finding my irish roots all i know is my gran katherine o neil was born in limerick southern ireland i dont know when she came to scotland but she married my grandad matthew mc shane on 12th july 1907 in st. johns rc chapel in barrhead my dad john was born on 3rd oct. 1907 you will see my gran was pregnant before she married which then wasnt good especialy being irish catholic maybe thats why she left ireland i dont know if my grandad came from ireland all i have been able to trace is their marriage lines i got the info. from my dads bithlines my grans parents were william o neil he is down as deceased on my grandparents marriage lines and her mum was mary o neil ms scullion my grandads parents were john mc shane he was also deceased when they married and his mum was called mary mc shane ms cavnah i am not sure if they were all from ireland but going by their names they proberly were as they are all irish catholic names i never knew my grandparents on my dads side as they both died in 1958 when i was 3yrs old my dad never spoke about his parents and i didnt ask as he was a very private person i have tried to get birthlines here in glasgow for them but there are no record for them i would be grateful if their is someone out there could give me some info. on what to do .  yours gratefuly   ellen

[ellen1]

sorry printed twice just started sorry everyone ellen