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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #99 on: Wednesday 17 August 05 21:55 BST (UK) »
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The General Register Office (GRO), which was located in Dublin, but is now in Roscommon,
Having just returned from Ireland I can confirm that the GRO hasn't yet moved, or maybe it is in both places, but still there in Lombard Street, Dublin.

To do a five year search of a BMD index is a cost of 1 Euro 90 cents, you are provided with the huge index books to do the search yourself and when you find the entry you pay a further 1 Euro 90 cents which gets you the photocopy of the entry about half an hour later.  Good value compared with England's £7 per certificate and waiting a few days for it.

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« Reply #100 on: Wednesday 17 August 05 22:06 BST (UK) »
 ;D ;D

Thanks for the info about the GRO Mary, it was supposed to have moved 'lock stock & barrel' by April this year, perhaps the change over has taken longer than expected !!

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« Reply #101 on: Wednesday 17 August 05 22:19 BST (UK) »
I'm glad it didn't as I might not have got my great grandparents marriage quite so easily.  I only spent an hour in their last week, got the copy which gave me enough information to get back a further generation during the time I was in Ireland.

Genealogists are very helpful people the whole world over, Ireland included.  I got lost .... as I do, ended up in the National Archives thinking that I might get something useful, but a friendly lady took me under her wing, and took me to the right Lombard Street (I had been looking at Lombard Street West quite some distance away from the proper place), taught me about the parking meters and "showed me the ropes". 

Eileen, if you are reading this, many thanks and I had a successful and enjoyable week.

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« Reply #102 on: Wednesday 17 August 05 23:11 BST (UK) »
Some of my Irish ancestors arrived in Manchester prior to 1818.
Commencing 1818 their children were baptized in the RC Church in Manchester, which I found by using a researcher. From various marriage certificates it appears that their father's were all born in "Ireland" 
I assume that they must have arrived early in the century. Does anyone know if there was a catastrophic reason for the Irish leaving their country prior to the potato famine, and also the general areas they could have originated from? My names occur throughout Ireland, but I thought perhaps Dublin might be a good place to start.
Without birth references, census, LDS, only their names to go, on I am interested in how other people have started their research, as to me it is just one big brick wall.
Pat
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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #103 on: Thursday 18 August 05 02:12 BST (UK) »
Hi,
maybe it's in two places at the moment ?
Their website says the location is Roscommon
http://www.groireland.ie/location.htm

Also on the  downloadable application forms (on their above site) for the BMD certificates, the postal address to where you send it to is also Roscommon.

I'm in the process of applying for some certificates ( my grandparents); could anyone tell me if I have a choice of either of the GRO's ( Belfast and Roscommon) for my lot. My grandparents were born before 1921 in what is known as N.Ireland today, but of course before 1921 when they were born  it was "Ireland".
I know that both GRO's state on their websites that they hold ( but hold and issuing are two different things to my mind if you know what I mean) copies up to 1921 for the whole of Ireland, but will the Roscommon  issue me a certified certificate for my grandparents who were born in Ballymoney and Broughshane before 1921, or will they return the application form and say apply to Belfast?

I've just forked out 10 pounds for my mum's with Belfast GRO online ( well 15 pounds I wanted two, for official purposes) - she was born after 1921, so no problem there. I didn't have a dilemma which office to apply to of course  :).

 But, if I can get my grandparents certs from Roscommon it works out cheaper than 10 pounds from Belfast

6.95 euro ( Roscommon GRO for a full birth cert)  is only  around $10.52 Australian

10 pounds ( full  birth cert from Belfast) is around  $22.62 Au

 As you can see ,this is a big difference between the costs from the two GRO's. It's more than double the cost for me  from Belfast GRO when converted into Au dollars, so you can see why I'm asking this question. I'd rather apply to Roscommon if I can for my  N.Ireland grandparents (pre 1921) certs

Anyone know if I can apply to Roscommon instead of Belfast for  the  full certified birth certs of my "northern" grandparents?
Thanks :)

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« Reply #104 on: Thursday 18 August 05 03:12 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

What would be an acceptable amount for a donation to a parish when requesting information?

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« Reply #105 on: Thursday 18 August 05 06:17 BST (UK) »
I'm glad it didn't as I might not have got my great grandparents marriage quite so easily.  I only spent an hour in their last week, got the copy which gave me enough information to get back a further generation during the time I was in Ireland.

Genealogists are very helpful people the whole world over, Ireland included.  I got lost .... as I do, ended up in the National Archives thinking that I might get something useful, but a friendly lady took me under her wing, and took me to the right Lombard Street (I had been looking at Lombard Street West quite some distance away from the proper place), taught me about the parking meters and "showed me the ropes". 

Eileen, if you are reading this, many thanks and I had a successful and enjoyable week.

Mary

Thanks for sharing your experiences of research in Ireland Mary, I too have always found the people there very helpful and friendly.

 :D :D :D :D
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« Reply #106 on: Thursday 18 August 05 06:27 BST (UK) »
Some of my Irish ancestors arrived in Manchester prior to 1818.
Commencing 1818 their children were baptized in the RC Church in Manchester, which I found by using a researcher. From various marriage certificates it appears that their father's were all born in "Ireland" 
I assume that they must have arrived early in the century. Does anyone know if there was a catastrophic reason for the Irish leaving their country prior to the potato famine, and also the general areas they could have originated from? My names occur throughout Ireland, but I thought perhaps Dublin might be a good place to start.
Without birth references, census, LDS, only their names to go, on I am interested in how other people have started their research, as to me it is just one big brick wall. Pat

Pat, you don't say where you Irish lived in 'Manchester' and which 'RC Church' they used, but as I understand it, you do have some info, found by a researcher.

If you didn't know already, Manchester has always had a huge Irish Population, and because of this, the Manchester & Lancs Family History Society have their own separate 'Irish Ancestry' Group -  a 'mine of information' on the Irish in Manchester.  I'm sure they'll be able to help.

http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/

 ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #107 on: Thursday 18 August 05 06:34 BST (UK) »
I'm in the process of applying for some certificates ( my grandparents); could anyone tell me if I have a choice of either of the GRO's ( Belfast and Roscommon) for my lot. My grandparents were born before 1921 in what is known as N.Ireland today, but of course before 1921 when they were born  it was "Ireland".
I know that both GRO's state on their websites that they hold ( but hold and issuing are two different things to my mind if you know what I mean) copies up to 1921 for the whole of Ireland, but will the Roscommon  issue me a certified certificate for my grandparents who were born in Ballymoney and Broughshane before 1921, or will they return the application form and say apply to Belfast?

Anyone know if I can apply to Roscommon instead of Belfast for  the  full certified birth certs of my "northern" grandparents?

Not too sure about this particular situation Cell, the only thing I can suggest is that you either post this query on the Ireland Board or get in touch with Roscommon or Belfast GRO's.

 ;D ;D ;D

BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)