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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #63 on: Sunday 14 August 05 00:29 BST (UK) »
Mobo,
Thank you for the pointer to this site.
I'll need to repost the info I posted to the Cumberland site:
My family (3 times) are from Ireland via Cleator Moor.
They arrived between 1845 and 1851 (if the James SLOAN I found in 1851 is mine)
Okay what I have:
James Henry SLOAN's married Margaret McANALLY nee KELLY 10 Nov 1867 Whitehaven.
James Henry's age is 22. Margaret's is 26.
Jame's surname is spelt SLONE. His father is Patrick SLONE born Ireland - deceased at time of James' marriage in 1867. Patrick's occupation is listed as 'labourer'
Margaret's family I find in the 1851 Census....yes all born only Ireland!
I haven't as yet positively found James or his father in the 1851 and 1861 Census.
I have in the 1851 Census for Cleator Moor a possible for James Henry (7) born in Louth but he's listed as a Lodger. There is no Patrick that I could tie to James. There is one other possiblity in that there is at the same address a Margaret Mc PARTIN (42) alms woman also registered as a lodger from Louth.....could she be an aunt?
The third family I'm chasing would be the DUNN family from Preston Quarter............also only found in 1861 census ..........Father. James (b 1807) and 5 children all born only Ireland. Wife Agness NN b 1807 Scotland. 5 Children born Preston Quarter. This family arrived in Cumberland between 1836 and 1843. I don't find them in the 1851 census.
One of the DUNN daughters married a son of SLONE/KELLY. Strong Irish mix.
They where all Church of England
Any advice would be appreciated

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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #64 on: Sunday 14 August 05 06:43 BST (UK) »
 ;D ;D ;D

Juddee,

There isn't a Peterswell in Galway, only Petersburgh (or Cappaghnagapple )

the Townland & Town is Petersburgh
the County is Galway
the Barony is Ross
the Parish is Ross
and the Poor Law Union is Oughterard

 ;D ;D
BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #65 on: Sunday 14 August 05 07:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Mobo

This is a major problem I've been having for years as on my ancestor's marriage certificate she stated her birthplace was Peterswell Co. Galway...which I naturally took to be a town.   It appears that is not the case.   On top of that, her death certificate, the information given by one of her children, shows her as born in Limerick   :-\ :-\

Sooooooo...back to the drawing board....yet  AGAIN   ::) ::)

Many thanks for your time and trouble Mobo

Juddee
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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #66 on: Sunday 14 August 05 07:15 BST (UK) »
 ;D ;D

Wooahh..... pc ... you can only search for one family at a time I'm afraid, otherwise it gets too complicated

First the SLOANS
You don't make it clear what demonination they were, were you just referring to the DUNNS or were all three families CofE ??

If they were RC, then the church they married in would be the first starting point.  The names of witnesses are also very important, as are the names of godparents. However, if they were CofE then that's an area out of my experience I'm afraid.

In the meantime, I need to know the following: Where did they actually live ? What census details do you have ?

BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #67 on: Sunday 14 August 05 07:23 BST (UK) »
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Don't give up Juddee

Try contacting

Galway Family History Society West Ltd.
Research Unit
Venture Centre
Liosbaun Estate
Tuam Road
Galway 

Tel. + 353 91 756737
 

As you need Irish stamps to write a letter, it's easier to 'phone. They might be able to help you as to where this Peterswell actually is.

 ;D ;D
BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #68 on: Sunday 14 August 05 07:57 BST (UK) »
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Juddee

Have found another site, this time with an email address, which is probably better.

Gort Heritage Centre
Church Street,
Gort,
Co. Galway
Tel: +353 91 630237

gortheritage@extn.galwaycoco.ie


BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #69 on: Sunday 14 August 05 08:14 BST (UK) »
 :) :) Many thanks for the addresses Mobo.

I'll try the Gort Heritage Centre first and if not successful will then
try the Galway Family History Society.

I'm not giving up yet !   ;D ;D

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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #70 on: Sunday 14 August 05 11:12 BST (UK) »
Seeing as I had some-one hear my pleas I thought I'd unload my burden all at one go. I read other messages where the folks have the same brickwall as myself. As soon as you find on the census...'born Ireland' everything seems to come to a halt. So these are my 3 Irish families that are giving me problems. I also thought that perhaps as you said if you look at the whole picture you might find a clue as to where they could've come from.
James Henry SLONE/SLOAN married Margaret KELLY in Whitehaven. I have them in the 1871 census in Cleator Village, 1881, 1891 & 1901 in  Church St,  Cleator Moor, Cumberland.
Margaret KELLY's family I found in the 1861 and 1851 census for Cleator Moor.
Their (James and Margaret's) children's baptism were sent me on photos but the entries only so can't 100% confirm church. Their children and their children's children were staunch Church of England followers.
As previous message I might have James SLOAN aged 7 in the 1851 census in Church lane, Egremont.
The DUNN family I have in the 1861 Census for Preston Quarter. Cumberland. Their daughter Margaret married James Dixon PHAROAH from Cleator Moor. Their daughter was such a staunch Church of England supporter that she disowned her for marrying a Catholic. I'd safely assume then that her family was CoE.
Well I think I've got all off me chest now.
Would there occupations in any way help?
James SLONE's father Patrick SLONE was a labouer
Margaret Kelly's father Robert KELLY was also a labouer
Margaret Dunn's father James Dunn was a coal miner
Thanks
Lynn

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Re: IRISH ANCESTRY
« Reply #71 on: Sunday 14 August 05 11:59 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'm also stuck with my Irish ancestry, but I'd like to know what the next step is for me, I am lucky enough to know what part of Ireland two of my ancestors were from. I can't make any trips to Ireland but I'd love to sometime in the distant future.
Can anyone advise me more about these people?  The rest of my family just say 'Ireland'. :(

James O'BRIEN, bn c1877 Killkenny Ireland
1901 census, Newcastle, lodger, 25, Shipyard laborer
1906, Married Ellen McVain, St Anthony's Church Newcastle (Catholic), platters helper, he aged 29, farther also named James O'Brien a laborer.
My Grant told me that James came to England but two brothers went to USA and to Australia.

Sarah SAUNDERS, bn c1866 Waterford Ireland
1891 census, visitor in Birmingham with Thomas GRANT and family (her future farther in law), age 24
189, Married Thomas GRANT, Certificate shows the registry office Birmingham, her farther George SAUNDERS deceased, School Master.
After the wedding the couple moved to Newcastle.

I have asked about Sarah before on the Waterford page but I haven't got any further since then!

Thank you
 Angelfish
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