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Offline m a r g e

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Re: Irish Ancestry
« Reply #261 on: Friday 23 March 07 14:07 GMT (UK) »
I've tried CAP for Angela's baptismal record --no luck with that either/  :<(   I did make one typing error on my last message --John died on January 15, 1886 --not 1866.  My grandmother was only 15 days old when her dad passed away.  Do you know how to access Irish Wills??  Just in case he left a will ---   thanks   Marge

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« Reply #262 on: Friday 23 March 07 14:34 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D

You might try posting a query about Irish Wills on the 'Ireland Board' Marge .

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BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

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Re: Irish Ancestry
« Reply #263 on: Friday 23 March 07 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Will do.  Thanks  ---I really enjoy your board --find it very informative and you've been very helpful.  :>)   Marge

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Re: Irish Ancestry
« Reply #264 on: Tuesday 17 April 07 18:34 BST (UK) »
I've been very lucky and with help have managed to find the births of my great grandparents.  I would now like to find them on the 1901 census, by ordering the appropriate reels from the local FHC.  The challenge - which reels do I order?

Mary Devlin grew up around Quigley's Point near Moville, Co. Donegal  (her baptism and parent's marriage have been found at St Patricks, Parish of Iskaheen, Diocese of Derry).

I have the birth certificate of William Meehigan in Artitighe, Kinsale, Cork.

The 1901 will be the only chance I have to find them with their respective families as they married Dec 31, 1910 in Glasgow, Scotland - have to wait for the 1911 to come out to find them on that.

Any and all help apprecitated.


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Re: Irish Ancestry
« Reply #265 on: Tuesday 17 April 07 22:13 BST (UK) »
Mobo, its tough. I tried to find my Irish ancestors a couple of years ago but made zero progress and gave up. Just decided to try again and posted this message over the weekend:

"I found my ggg grandfather, Edward Dwyer was born in Ireland but cannot find from which town or county.  Based on the 1841 census in England, he was born between 1791 and 1796; his first wife was Mary, born 1796 to 1801 also in Ireland; they had a son Richard born abt 1821 in Ireland; their first daughter, Marry Ann, was born in Leeds in 1828. So, Edward and Mary appear to have come to Leeds between 1821 and 1828. He was a weaver and they lived in the Richmond Hill area of the city. Mary died in 1842 and Edward married a Sarah Park, born in Ireland, in 1843.

Grateful for any help or advice in how I could trace the family in Ireland."

Reading some of the replies to your message made me realised that I had forgotten something important. The children born in England where baptised into the Church of England (St Peters, the Parish Church of Leeds). Can I assume that they were a protestant family in Ireland and therefore I should be looking in the northern counties?

Any ideas grateful recieved!!

Steve

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« Reply #266 on: Wednesday 18 April 07 08:49 BST (UK) »
;D ;D

This is an extra 'tricky' one Steve, not only did Edward & Mary die before the 1851 Census, (so killing the possibility of their birth County being shown on later Censuses), but, it looks as if the family may have been Protestant, in which case, I don't know how to advise you.

However, looking at the 1851 Census, the Dwyer family have quite a few neighbours who are all from Ireland and who all seem to be in the 'Weaving' trade.  So this could possibly be a clue as to where they all came from in Ireland.

I suggest you get in touch with the Family History Society which covers the Leeds area, they should be able to help with this.  You'll find them on.
 
http://www.yorkshireroots.org.uk/index.html

Sorry I can't be of more help.

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BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

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Re: Irish Ancestry
« Reply #267 on: Wednesday 18 April 07 13:44 BST (UK) »
Hi All

I always considered myself Scottish, I knew we had Irish Ancestor - there are not many people in the West of Scotland who do not - but I never bargained on how many.  I was shocked to discover that out of 16 families going back over 250 years only 2 are Scottish.

I was struggling to find out where in Ireland, but had a bit of luck with a number of things.

Scottish Parish registers - Catholic records - upto about 1860 often said where the person being married came from.  This was I learned my Smith's came from County Down - still don't know where in County Down, but I have something to work onl

A dilignet enumerator in the Census put County Tyrone for my Lynn's.  A poor law record for the same family showed that they came for Shanmaghry a hamlet near Dungannon.  Poor law records are really detailed.  I got place of birth, parents, marriage, children, childrens marriage and all families.  Great stuff.

Birth certificates in Scotland showed the parents date of marriage.  My Deignan's had been married in Derry - another starting point.

Irish records where they exist are in themselves awful.  Living in Scotland has spoiled me - Most Irish records only name fathers - mothers don't count.  Death certificates don't give parents names.  The National Archives in Belfast does have all the Catholic parish records and that is where I found my GGGrandfather Lynn's date of brith in October 1825.  So it can be done with a lot of luck and help.  Happy hunting.

Liz
McQuade-Monaghan/Dumbarton, Lynn-Co Tyrone/Stirling/Dumbarton/Glasgow, McSporran-Campbelltown/Glasgow/Renton/Dumbarton,  Smith, Madden-Antrim/Dumbarton, McFarlane-Roseneath, Barr-Buncranna/Derry/Dumbarton

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Re: Irish Ancestry
« Reply #268 on: Wednesday 18 April 07 18:37 BST (UK) »
Steve- all Protestants did not, and still do not, live in what is now Northern Ireland so relgion will not really narrow down area to search. Same with weavers.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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« Reply #269 on: Wednesday 18 April 07 20:51 BST (UK) »
I've just had a read through the messages on this board as I too am stuck with Irish roots!!  My husbands great grandfather was born in Irleand (Edward Fagan in 1861 ish) but we don't know where.  His marriage cert gives his father as Patrick Fagan and he is deceased by the time of marriage in 1882. 

Edward and his brother James moved to Workington Cumbria sometime after the 1881 census but before Feb 1882 when he got married.  The 1901 census just lists Edward as originating from Ireland.

Edward and James both married sisters who were living in Workington in 1881, but they originated in Rathfriland County Down.

I think Fagan may have been Fegan or Fagen when it originated in Ireland?  What a minefield.

Claire
Fagan - pos County Down, Workington, Manchester, Holberry - E. Retford, Manchester
Skinner - Devon, Manchester
Rainey/Reaney - Ireland,County Mayo, Manchester
Murphy, McCormish, Kelly, Dunn, Paddon, McAleavy, Messenger, Carruthers
Dunn - Sligo, Manchester, Scotland
Gratrix - Didsbury
Johnson/Johnstone
Siddons