Irish Ancestry

[cbxchop]

well things are looking up for thomas langan and catherine dunne
catherines first husband was patrick neary
 with catherine and patricks neary son john he married mary scot
and now am in touch with with john and marys gggson so things are looking up
takecare besafe

[vihar2203]

Hi all,

Any of you kind people who have "cracked it" got any tips please ?

I know that my GGGrandad was born in Ireland.... however it is proving to be a nightmare trying to find out where. All I know is that he married in Liverpool in 1876 at the age of 24.  Is there anywhere I could look to find out the names of Irish who moved to Liverpool in the 1800's for example.

Many thanks

Tony Quinn

[Christopher]

Hi all,

Any of you kind people who have "cracked it" got any tips please ?

I know that my GGGrandad was born in Ireland.... however it is proving to be a nightmare trying to find out where. All I know is that he married in Liverpool in 1876 at the age of 24.  Is there anywhere I could look to find out the names of Irish who moved to Liverpool in the 1800's for example.

Many thanks

Tony Quinn

Hiya Tony,

You're in luck. You get your answer as soon as you ask your question. I asked the following six weeks ago. Now I hope some of you can help me .. several of you have approached Heritage Centres which tend to be members of the Irish Family History Foundation. When replying to you with information regarding your ancestors did they quote the sources where they found the information? I'd like to know as I've received a message from a person who approached two Centres and in both cases sources were not quoted.  I feel very strongly that sources should be given in all instances. If the Heritage Centre or anyone else has made an error then without sources it means a lot of extra work.

Now in answer to your question, Tony. I regret there are no places where you can find the names of Irish people who moved to Britain from Ireland in the 1800s. These were internal movements within the United Kingdom so there was no necessity to keep records of movements. Soldiers might be a different matter. You could possibly trace troop movements and the dates that they moved from one barracks to another.

Chris

[vihar2203]

Hi Christopher,

Thanks very much for your swift and prompt reply. Looks like a lot of hard searching and work ahead then.......lol 
Thanks again and all the best.

Tony

[Genegenee]

Hi Mobo,

Any tips for my new found Canadian cousin M & I?

We have searched for a couple of years, M with a vengeance lol but with no joy.

John Roche & Angel McCarthy married 23rd July 1864 @ the Chapel of St Ann & Mary Shandon, Cork City, Cork.

M has had no luck with their baptism from the Church.  Where else can we look?

Genegenee

[Mobo]

 

Hi Genegenee
You could try getting in touch with,

Cork City Ancestral Project
Cork County Library
Farranlea Road
County Cork
Republic of Ireland

 

[mafsef]

You're so right - tracing anything Irish is worse than pulling teeth. I have, on my wifes side, kin still living there and I can't find any supportable info from any source. The family burial plot is in the Old Blaris burial ground in Lisburn, Co. Antrim and even their records are suspect. They have recorded names back to the early 1800,s which even the family don't recognise! So, what does one do? If anyone out there has any sensible suggestions I would love to hear them. And by the way my only access is via the internet as I'm sitting in Florida sunshine, a long way from the source.
Alan F.

[m a r g e]

Hi this is Genegenee's cousin, M, writing ---I've tried Cork
Ancestry Project, but they can't find John Roche baptised in 1841 --they have one in 1844, in St Mary's and St. Anne's --and another in 1844 in St. Patricks.  The one from St M & A's has his mother as Sarah Murphy --none of his children has the name Sarah -so I discounted this baptismal record.  The one from St. Patrick's had John Roche as the father and Hanora Murphy as his mother --but I don't know if this was MY John Roche's parents --he was to have been born in 1841 according to both his marriage and death certs.

On John Roche and Angela McCarthy's marriage cert (for St. Ann and Mary Shandon - North Cathedral now)--it doesn't show their birthplaces --only their residence at the time of their marriage, which on 23 July 1864, was 34 Dominick Street, Cork City.  And the same thing on his death cert --15 Jan 1866 --it only shows his place of death - 2 Brogue Market Street, in Cork City.

Any further suggestions as to where to look next??  John Roche was a very common name.  I've tried the "relatives in Ireland" route --they don't have much info that they are willing to share.  Thanks  M in Canada

[Mobo]

 

Unfortunately, it looks like you may have hit the proverbial 'brick wall' with this one Marge.  Even though John 'married' in Cork, it doesn't neccessarily mean he was born there, perhaps it was Angela's Parish.  You could try Cork Ancestral Project again to see if they have a 'birth' record for her.  Other than that, I don't know what else to suggest.  Sorry.