Irish Ancestry

[Mobo]

 

Don't  give up linmey.  Yes, it's a shame Mary Ann diied in 1850, meaing she won't be on the 1851 Census, but there are other avenues. 

Do you have a copy of her Marriage to John Rennel/ Reynolds in Pertenhall, Beds in 1828?  Was she Catholic ? If so, her County of origin, and even her parents' names could appear on it.   Also the names of any witnesses are important, as they could be relatives who may also have married in the same church, and who you may be able to trace on the 1861 Census.

 

[linmey]

many thanks for that. I certainly wont give up.
  I am fairly new to this but extremely enthusiastic (as my poor starving children can confirm). I dont have a copy of the marriage certificate but thats obviously got to be my first task. Many thanks for that and I will let you know how I get on.
    Many thanks and best wishes.
           Linda.

[Nadine Moore]

Hi Mobo

I have read this thread with interest as I now have an Irish ancestor to trace.

I recently posted the following onto the Limerick board but wondered if there was anything else i need to post, etc to try to trace my relative.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,92257.0.html

As far as I am aware, on the 1901 Sussex census, AMY HILL has noted her place of birth as Limerick, Ireland. She was born c1871/72. Her sister, SARAH HILL was born at Fulwood Barracks, Lancashire in 1874. I do not know if their father was originally from Ireland, or serving out there with the 47th Regiment of Foot (This was his regiment when Sarah was born). Their mother was originally from North America, Canada per the 1901 Kent census.

Can you point me in any direction that may help me find this family, or at least AMY's birth.

I cannot find them on either the 1881/91 UK Census returns.

Thanks for any advice you can provide,

Dinie

[Mobo]

many thanks for that. I certainly wont give up.   I dont have a copy of the marriage certificate but thats obviously got to be my first task. Many thanks for that and I will let you know how I get on. Linda

Linda, you won't actually be able to get a copy of a certificate,  they weren't issued until after 1837.  First, you will have to find the Church she married in, then, write to the Parish Priest asking him to look it up for you. ( A small donation to the church is usual).

Let us know how you get on

 

[Mobo]

 

Hi dinie

I would have suggested you contact the Limerick Heritage Centre, but unfortunately, they have ceased functioning due to a lack of government funding. 

I really don't know what else to suggest other than you ask someone to search Limerick birth records for you.  As you've already posted to the Limerick Board, I'm afraid all you can do is wait until someone answers. 

Sorry I couldn't be of more help

 

[fionnghal]

now i'm really depressed.  you're all finding difficulty with ancestors that left Ireland as recently as hte mid-1800s.  mine left around 1800 .. before the destruction of records .. what chance do i have? we've just come grinding to a complete and total halt! 

 we don't even know for sure where they lived .. just educated guesses.  :-(   Co Louth, Down and/or Armagh we think, McLindens,  McSevneys & Riddicks to name a few.  i don't think htey even knew or were bothered which religion they were, just getting the kids christened in hte nearest recogniseable church.  more important things were the order of hte day ..  like making sure there was food enough for hungry mouths.  they shipped up in Ayrshire, and had a very hard time of it - regarded as 'those undesirable dirty Irish'!  a local minister even wrote as much in local publication at the time!  poor sods!   all they were trying to do was survive and make something of themselves and their cildren.  they did too :-)

but just in case someone amongst you has come across them, or, has even successfully researched them back 500 years :-))  here are some names and known [almost] dates:

spellings in all cases very variable and exceptionally original!   but i'll use a fairly standard one in htis list:

McLinden - Micheal b.c. 1781 Ireland, possibly in one of the counties listed above
married to Agnes McTeague [or Montegue] b.c.1870 somewhere in Ireland

McLinden children b. John c.1805 [maybe Ireland] ; Rosanna b.1806 & Peter 1807 both in Ayr;
Agnes b.c.1815 & Margaret & Micheal b.c.1821, Mary b.c.1825 these last mentioned having been born in Girvan AYR.

we're pretty sure there were more elder siblings born in Ireland but haven't managed to trace them. 

Riddick - William and his wife Martha Lauderdale b. somewhere in Ireland
children William, Mgt, Mary and John [at least] all born in Ireland between 1798 & 1813 whereabouts unknown

McSevney [another name with an extensively variable spelling!]
William McSevney and his 1st wife Adams Ewart both b. Ireland [Wllm possibly Mullaghbrack nr co Armagh].  m.c.1800
2 known children William & Margaret b. co Down or Armagh bet 1801 & 1807.  son John was born Maybole AYR 1809
I'd be very surprised if hthese were all hte kids they had!

wife Adams dies and is replaced by no 2, Jeannie Irvine who has a child Frances McSevney b.1811 in Ireland [we think].  m. possibly c.1809/10.  we think he might have crossed over ot find a wife or maybe known to the family.

rapid replacement of a newly dead wife wasn;t cold hearted and unfeeling, it was necessary for survival and the care of the children.  they just had to get on with it.   it was a different world back then!

any help, guidance, glorious illumination or pure genious would be greatfully accepted :-)

le durachd :-)
fionnghal

[Mobo]

 

Hi fion

By the sound of these surnames, I'd say your Irish probably came from Northern Ireland.  Also, because they settled in Scotland, I would suggest you post this query on the Ayrshire Board (if you haven't already).

I'm afraid that's all I can suggest really, as Northern Ieland and Scotland are both outside my own particular experience.

[fionnghal]

thanks, I'll do that :-)

[MaryA]

I wonder if you've tried any of the Rootsweb mailing lists as opposed to messageboards.  I subscribed to the Wexford one and find a lot of very knowledgeable people who also have a lot of data to hand which they transcribe and post, some of it as an on-going project I think, but some of it they find at the request of other subscribers.  You could subscribe to a few counties and see whether your names are common in those areas, or even ask the question of people who may well live there.

There are also mailing lists for Irish Obits, Tombstones and Cemeteries, the information could prove useful on any of these as although not nearly as much is posted to these, the data is more general than county specific which might help you pin your ancestors down.  The archives are also searchable.

Mary