Thanks for your reply. I have not got my files to hand at the moment. From memory in 1841 both parents and daughter and son William were said to have been born in Essex. Subsequent censuses suggested that Dagenham was birthplace of son William which led me to concentrate on SE Essex but then found that the similar name of the Neave estate (now occupied by the GLC area of Havering) was a red herring. In recent months I have had very promising results in Stansted, Downham and Terling some of which had clues to Hadham