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Re: Cannot find death ref
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 26 October 17 17:35 BST (UK) »
Good find; GRO state age as 62
BOHAN, ELEANOR       62     
GRO Reference: 1858  M Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 205
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 26 October 17 17:37 BST (UK) »
I'm sure Stan is correct, but my 3x great grandmother Eleanor Boullen nee Hastings died as the result of an accident aged 65 and was buried on 22 October 1857 in Ardwick Cemetery, Manchester according to the cemetery burial records.  She was living nearby on 3 Ashton Road at the time.  I have looked high and low, as has my co-researcher, but neither of us can find either a registration of death or a report of the accident in the newspaper.  So I think it's fair to say that some deaths did "slip through the net".

BTW, if anyone else can find her, I'd be eternally grateful!

If it was as a result of an accident could there have been an inquest, so a notice of burial was issued but the death not registered until after the verdict of the coroner?

If that was the case, could this be the death with the name transcribed or spelled incorrectly?

Deaths Mar 1858   
Bohan    Eleanor       
Manchester    8d   205

ADDED: Maybe not as her age is recorded as 62 on the GRO site (although if the name is wrong so could a 5 be recorded as a 2) Might be worth trying to find an Eleanor Bohan in the 1851 census to rule her out.

Thanks Groom.  Now that is interesting  as this lady was 62 and my Eleanor was 65.  Will see if I can find an Eleanor Bohan on the census.  (Crossed post with Josie)

Sorry to the OP for hijacking your thread a bit   ;)
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Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
Comer - Manchester and Galway

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 26 October 17 17:44 BST (UK) »
Will see if I can find an Eleanor Bohan on the census.
I have had a look with no success - however I can't find YOUR Eleanor either   :-\
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 26 October 17 17:50 BST (UK) »
My Eleanor was in Carlisle in 1851.  She was widowed in 1852 and moved to Manchester to be with her daughter ,  Eleanor Anderson, sometime between 1852 and her death.
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Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
Comer - Manchester and Galway


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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 26 October 17 17:55 BST (UK) »
Might be worth spending £6 on that death certificate.  I can't see Eleanor Bohan in 1851 and I see that even Manchester cemetery have your Eleanor recorded twice as Boullen and Bowllen.
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 26 October 17 18:03 BST (UK) »
I think so too.  Alcohol played a significant role in this family, two of Eleanor's daughters died as a result of alcoholism or an accident due to intoxication  ::) and 3 Ashton Road was next door to a pub!
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Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
Comer - Manchester and Galway

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 26 October 17 21:29 BST (UK) »
If you look at 19th century inquests in the newspapers they were held within a day or two of the event.

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 26 October 17 21:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you to all for replies, I have contacted the register office and await their response.

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 02 November 17 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Just a quick update about my Eleanor Boullen's missing death cert;

The pdf has now arrived and it is certainly does not relate to my Eleanor;  the clinching evidence being that Eleanor BOHAN died on 28 Jan 1858 while mine had been buried on 22 Oct 1857.

So the death cert I want is still missing. I think it is likely my Eleanor died at or close to home in Manchester since she died on 19th Oct and was buried on 22nd - not long enough to move her from afar.  My hunt continues but thanks to all who helped.
Perrins - Manchester and Staffs
Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
Comer - Manchester and Galway