Samuel Chapman born 1781 Loudoun, searching for information & gravesite location

[afaile]

Yes he would be my Great Grandfather x2.  He's buried here in the US close to where we live. His Father Samuel Grandfather x3 was born in 1781 Loudoun Scotland. He was married in Scotland and remained ther till his death. Which I'm yet to figure out. I found his marriage certificate and still need to view it.

[trish1120]

Looks to be them 1841 in Dalserf, Lanarkshire;
Samuel Chapam, 50, Ag Lab, born Ireland
Helen Chapam, 50
Helen Chapam, 27, Hand Loom Weaver
Elisabeth Chapam, 18, Sewer
James Cattelson Chapam, 16,
Mary Norwick, 11, Servant
All others born Scotland*

[afaile]

Yes the son is buried in Elgin Illinois near us. Hopefully want to find where his father Samuel and mother Helen are buried.

[trish1120]

Looks to me that what I have posted may be Samuel Jnrs Parents and Samuel Snr was born Ireland.

Where does the info of Loudon as Samuel Snrs birth come from?

If no one has Samuel Snr 1841/1851/1861 Census then pob is impossible to establish.


Trish

[trish1120]

And James from 1841 Census;
James Chapman   38
Mary Chapman   48
George Gilmour   20
Samuel Chapman15
William Gilmon   12
James Chapman   9
Elizabeth Gilmour 19
Christina Gilmour 15
Ellen Chapman   7

The Gilmours are Step Children of James Chapman.
James is down as born Ireland but in 1851 Darvel

1851 Census Lanarkshire;
James Chapman   27 born Darvel, Ayrshire***
Mary Neilson   38 Wife
Jean Gilmour   16
George Gilmour   11
Christina Gilmour 6
William Gilmour   4
James Chapman   3 Mo
Elisabeth Silmon 9

So Mary must have been a Widow

[afaile]

My brother prepared our family tree, i will talk to my brother. It says Samuel Sr is listed as born 1781 in Loudoun. That's All. Marriage certificate lists marriage to Helen in loudoun 1806. Son Samuel Jr born in Darvel (buried in Elgin) marriage certificate correct, says married in Cadder. Its on scotlands people site. Still need to pay to view marriage certificates.

[trish1120]

Ok, have a talk with your Brother and also see if he has Samuels 1887 Illinois Death Cert.

Trish

[afaile]

Oh that makes sense look for Samuel Jrs Death Certificate in illionis. We should be able to find that and hopefully get his parent info on there. We are visitng the cemetery in Illinois in a few weeks.  I'll get back to you. Thanks for your help!!

[trish1120]

Your welcome, let us know the outcome please