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Re: Lucy Anne Church
« Reply #9 on: Friday 29 September 17 13:53 BST (UK) »
Looking at how she signed her name in 1911 - Frances Filer CHURCH
There is a birth in 1869 Q1 Jan-Mar Farnham Surrey V1a P85 of the same name

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Baptism in York Town on Jan 31 1869
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Re: Lucy Anne Church
« Reply #10 on: Friday 29 September 17 13:54 BST (UK) »
Hi
What isn't immediately clear is that Church is Frances's maiden name.
She's unmarried.
Children
Irene Frances born in the Workhouse 12.4.1892
Lucy Anne 8.8.1895.

Irene gives her father as Albert church on her marriage when she married at Islington in 1916 to Walter Edward Ginn but I think that was just because she was embarrased in front of the Vicar.

There's a Fanny Church baptised at Ardington Berks 3.4.1870 d of William and Mary who may  be her.


There are school records for the girls and Workhouse records in London on Ancestry and no mention of Dad.

Sorry  I was typing while myluck was posting she may well be right for the mother,she has a sister Lucy Ann Church and the family are living in Reading 1881,parents George and Charlotte Ellen Church nee Leavey baker

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Re: Lucy Anne Church
« Reply #11 on: Friday 29 September 17 13:58 BST (UK) »
on 1881 census at 23 Norwood Ter, Reading; St Giles, Berkshire
Piece: 1308; Folio: 58; Page Number: 18
George Church   51
Ellen Church   39
Lucy A. Church   17
Frances F. Church   12
Arthur G. Church   8

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She may have named her daughter after her sister
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
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Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Lucy Anne Church
« Reply #12 on: Friday 29 September 17 13:58 BST (UK) »
1911 Census - Frances signs as Frances Filer Church.  There is a baptism 31 January 1869 - York Town, Surrey - parents George and Charlotte Ellen.

GRO Index gives mmn for Frances Filer as Leavey - March quarter 1869.

FreeBMD - December 1852, Newbury District - George Church and Charlotte Ellen Leavey appear on the same page.

Did they all migrate to Australia? 
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Re: Lucy Anne Church
« Reply #13 on: Friday 29 September 17 14:01 BST (UK) »
Possible death for Frances F CHURCH in 1936 -
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Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
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Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Lucy Anne Church
« Reply #14 on: Friday 29 September 17 14:03 BST (UK) »
on 1871 census at
202 park Road, York Town, Frimley, Surrey

George Church   41
Charlotte E Church   37
Alice Church   16
Thomas C Church   14
George Church   12
Henry W Church   11
Edward Church   9
Lucy A Church   7
Catherine E Church   5
Frances F Church   2
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Lucy Anne Church
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 30 September 17 14:12 BST (UK) »
Mozzie:  As you have now been on-line at least twice since yesterday afternoon, it would be nice to learn whether we have been of help to you, or not.   ;)
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Re: Lucy Anne Church
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 01 October 17 06:13 BST (UK) »
You've beat me to it.  Trying to put all the new data with other information from family and write an informative reply.  Will answer all individual messages and thank each one for their greatly appreciated time and help.  I know that "rootschat" is by far the best genealogy website online and definitely the most helpful that I've ever come across to date.  Regards Mozzie 
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Re: Lucy Anne Church
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 01 October 17 07:31 BST (UK) »
Very glad that we were of use to you.

Possibly not the happiest of starts for Lucy and her sister, but hopefully it all got better for them.  :)
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