James Bolton

[eileendavid]

Did you get my other posting on what I found on Jairdain?

[Gadget]

I think I was following up up that James Jairdain at the same time as you and put it on the deciphering thread  He's down as a weaver on one of the children's baptisms, if I recall.

What info do you have on Alexander Storie. I have a baptism that might be him ~

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XT5C-PHL

[Gadget]

I've checked the Banns for Helen and her father is definitely given as the late  William Bolton, shoemaker in Dumfries. It might be that Helen didn't really know him or there was a name change or the baptism info was wrong or he had two names.

Have you looked for a William or just James?

[eileendavid]

Hello Gadget

Well I am thinking that a great many fibs have been told here. 

I have emailed the lady at the Dumfries archives to advise that the name could be James/William or both hopefully something will come to light.  Perhaps soldiers also had girls in every town much as supposed sailors had them in every port.

I have found an Elizabeth Storie born 24.06.1782 daughter of Archibald Storie and Agnes Cree at St Cuthberts a possibility this was on Scotlands People.  Right age she would have been 20.

Also on the LDS I found a census for 1841 of a William Bolton born circa 1776 living in St Cuthberts, Midlothian don't know any further details this is all the LDS gave

As the marriage ruling was so lapsed could Elizabeth just have taken his name of Bolton to legitimise
her daughter and had her christened at Dalkeith 10 miles away so they weren't known? Continuing the deception to the grave?

Daniel Potter who Helen married was a shoemaker lived at Fisherrow at the time of his marriage.  His father James Potter was also a shoemaker but not found anything else for him yet except he married Jane/Jean Holdsworth daughter of Stephen who was a clothier in Dalkeith. Also I have been advised Holdsworth isn't a Scottish name?

Helen possibly didn't know her father at all?   

This part of the family is proving very difficult and thank you for your help it's much appreciated.
Perhaps I will never know.

Eileen

[Gadget]

I hink we've been looking and thinking the same things, Eileen. I also think, like you,  that Helen didn't know much about her father.

A brief summary from the records for Helen's father:

1802 James Bolton, 4th reg NB Militia (Dumfries) - bpt
1823 - the late William Bolton, shoemaker of Dumfries - marriage
1882 - James Bolton, gardener - death

I looked at the 1841 William Bolton. Transcription details from Freecen ~

20 India Place, St Cuthberts, Midlothian
 7/109/2
William Bolton. 65, Independant, b. Scotland

This seems to be a multihousehold property. Some transcriptions list 3-4 households as one!

I hope the Ewart might be able to give some solutions.

Have you followed up the Elizabeth Storrie, daughter of Alexander?

Gadget

[eileendavid]

I couldn't find an Elizabeth Storie daughter of Alexander.

The Alexander who married an Elizabeth Jarden would have been about similar age to Elizabeth Storie.  I was thinking he may have been a cousin or a brother clutching straws again.  It was when I was looking at James Jairdain that it came up. 

Again there is a Bolton (no first name) on LDS 1851 census Midlothian but no further details.

I might have to stick to the Potter's but they are also a bit illusive.

Thanks again will keep you posted.

Eileen

[Gadget]

Sorry - mis-read - I meant this one

I have found an Elizabeth Storie born 24.06.1782 daughter of Archibald Storie and Agnes Cree at St Cuthberts a possibility this was on Scotlands People.  Right age she would have been 20.

[Gadget]

There are three baptisms in Dumfriesshire with father James Bolton 1792-1796 ( I searched with a wider time span). Wife in all cases wasMargaret Hyslop

Durisdeer - 15 July 1793 John
Penpont - 29 May 1794 Margaret
Penpont - 17 July 1796 Jean

No marriage found to date.

Worth investigating.

Gadget

[eileendavid]

Hello Gadget

It's funny you should mention the name Hyslop or Hislop as I was looking at a possibility for a baptism of a James Potter (father in law of Helen Bolton) 05.04.1777 at St Cuthberts Edinburgh parents William Potter and May Hislop.  (These were recorded as Patter) as was their marriage 22.09.1773 at St Cuthberts.  Her father was James Hislop

Couldn't find a William Patter but found a William Potter christened at St Cuthberts 08.07.1750 parents John Potter and Jean Moubray.

The only reason I mentioned this is because of the Hislop connection. 

I let you know when I hear from the Dumfries archives

Eileen