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Re: Alan Neill...Help
« Reply #90 on: Saturday 02 September 17 20:12 BST (UK) »
"So if Neill did have more kids a boy could have been named Allan which is a big help"

See my post, reply 75, which implies exactly that!  There is one! The double L in Allan is quite a give-away.   
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« Reply #91 on: Saturday 02 September 17 20:52 BST (UK) »
Margaret Handlin/g Milroy's grandparents George Milroy and Margaret Morrow Handling married in 1899 - George 25, son of Thomas Milroy, Shepherd and Sarah, nee Briggs, and Margaret Morrow Handling 21, dau. of Peter Handling, Railway Porter and Ann Jane, nee Murray.

Margaret's birth was registered in 1878 as Margaret Morrow Hanlon and in 1881/1891/1901 family are living in Old Luce, Wigtownshire as Hanlon.  So, 'Hanlon' seems to have become 'Handling' when Margaret married.   Her parents Peter and Ann Jane actually married in England - 17/12/1872 Liverpool - although mother married as just Jane Murray and they had a son Douglas born in Liverpool before moving back to Old Luce.  In 1851 in Wigtown Peter is with his parents Douglas and Margaret and this time surname is Handling!   You could be having 'fun' with this surname.

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Re: Alan Neill...Help
« Reply #92 on: Saturday 02 September 17 22:16 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Annette7 on Thursday 31 August 17 13:41 BST (UK)
So, did Allan Neill and Margaret divorce?

Annette

Yes!!...

CS258/22344 Margaret H Milroy or Neill v Allan Neill Divorce 1949

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This might be because the item is undergoing conservation It might be closed for a number of years, under Data Protection legislation, or by a private owner of the records."


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Add...Brilliant work ladies & fascinating, just finished reading it all  ;D
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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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« Reply #93 on: Saturday 02 September 17 22:31 BST (UK) »
Well done Annie, things are starting to come together. I see unfortunately the status of that record is closed. Does that mean Shushie can't apply for it?

HOWEVER we have a problem here if they didn't divorce until 1949 as Margaret and Carl married in 1948.

Marriages Mar 1948 
Colson    Carl C            Colson            Surrey Mid.E.   
Colson    Carl C            Neill                    Surrey Mid.E.   
Colson    Carl C            Milroy            Surrey Mid.E.   
Colson    Margaret H    Colson            Surrey Mid.E.
Milroy    Margaret H    Colson            Surrey Mid.E.
Neill    Margaret H            Colson            Surrey Mid.E.    5g   722   
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Re: Alan Neill...Help
« Reply #94 on: Saturday 02 September 17 23:33 BST (UK) »
Quote from: groom on Saturday 02 September 17 22:31 BST (UK)
Well done Annie, things are starting to come together. I see unfortunately the status of that record is closed. Does that mean Shushie can't apply for it?

HOWEVER we have a problem here if they didn't divorce until 1949 as Margaret and Carl married in 1948.

Marriages Mar 1948 
Colson    Carl C            Colson            Surrey Mid.E.   
Colson    Carl C            Neill                    Surrey Mid.E.   
Colson    Carl C            Milroy            Surrey Mid.E.   
Colson    Margaret H    Colson            Surrey Mid.E.
Milroy    Margaret H    Colson            Surrey Mid.E.
Neill    Margaret H            Colson            Surrey Mid.E.    5g   722

Unfortunately Groom the records can neither be sent for nor looked up & transcribed sadly.

I noticed the date but at least she'd applied for the divorce before jumping ship & getting married in another country probably thought she'd never be found out & not nearly 70 yrs later  :D

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« Reply #95 on: Saturday 02 September 17 23:41 BST (UK) »
She might have applied for the divorce, but she didn't wait until it was granted before marrying Carl Colson and going off to America with him. I wonder how they managed that as she wouldn't have been in the UK to deal with any paperwork or court appearances? I'm guessing she had to marry Carl so that she could go to America with him but I presume that means as she married before the divorce came through that she married bigamously? I wonder if they remarried in America?

Could it be that she "disappeared" and Allan Neill sued for divorce as he wanted to remarry?
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Re: Alan Neill...Help
« Reply #96 on: Saturday 02 September 17 23:50 BST (UK) »
Quote from: groom on Saturday 02 September 17 23:41 BST (UK)
Could it be that she "disappeared" and Allan Neill sued for divorce as he wanted to remarry?

Groom, from the wording it looks as though she was the one applying?

"Margaret H Milroy or Neill v Allan Neill Divorce 1949"

She wouldn't need to appear in court if it was mutual & she knew it was going ahead, just a case of waiting for when it was granted.

She possibly married only a matter months before it was granted as there's no given date?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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« Reply #97 on: Sunday 03 September 17 00:01 BST (UK) »
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She possibly married only a matter months before it was granted as there's no given date?

Still naughty and illegal.  ;D

My guess is that as he was in the Air Force, they had to marry so that she was allowed to go back to America with him. The authorities probably needed to see a certificate before they granted permission. Perhaps they just took a chance that as they were going out of the country it would never be discovered. Look at the names that were used on the GRO record - Milroy, Neill and Colson.
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Re: Alan Neill...Help
« Reply #98 on: Tuesday 05 September 17 11:37 BST (UK) »
Ok guys it appears that Allan Neill was the father of Both kids ( I received the birth cert, yay)born in 1941 and 42 I could use anyone's help in reading this or an opinion would be great TIA
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