Allan Neill Private Royal Army Service Corps service number 224240/ 2202110

[SHUSHIE]

I agree, that is the problem, too many questions and no obvious way to find the answers.

If the Allan who died in 2009 is the same one, he must have returned at the end of the war in 1945, so why didn't he and Margaret get back together. The fact that she isn't down as a divorcee is also puzzling if that is the case.

As I see it, there may be a couple of ways to answer this  a) find his war records, apply for them and see what they say or b) follow up the death of the 2009 one and try and make contact to see if it is the same person. Also if we could find the family of Carl Colson in the US, they may just know what happened as well.

   Just gone over the marriage cert it was difficult to read but states looking at it closely obtained a divorce so she did indeed divorce Allan Neill sometime between 42 and 48 but I haven't found the divorce would she have to go back to Scotland to obtain a divorce? having been married there

Plus Allan Neill would have married again and probably had more children if he survived the war

[KGarrad]

I agree, that is the problem, too many questions and no obvious way to find the answers.

If the Allan who died in 2009 is the same one, he must have returned at the end of the war in 1945, so why didn't he and Margaret get back together. The fact that she isn't down as a divorcee is also puzzling if that is the case.

As I see it, there may be a couple of ways to answer this  a) find his war records, apply for them and see what they say or b) follow up the death of the 2009 one and try and make contact to see if it is the same person. Also if we could find the family of Carl Colson in the US, they may just know what happened as well.

   Just gone over the marriage cert it was difficult to read but states looking at it closely obtained a divorce so she did indeed divorce Allan Neill sometime between 42 and 48 but I haven't found the divorce would she have to go back to Scotland to obtain a divorce? having been married there

No.
I first married in Bristol, and got my divorce in the Isle of Man - which is a separate Legal Jurisdiction from England & Wales.

[groom]

Little bit more about Carl Clayton Colson for interest.

According to the 1940 census his father was Carl Colson born 1893 and his mother was Georgia May born 1896.

In his will draft that was drawn up when he enlisted, his birth was 15th June 1919 and he enlisted 16th October 1940. His occupation was a student. He weighed 125 lb, was 5ft 4 inches tall, had a ruddy complexion, grey eyes and brown hair.

[Anne Lothian]

What a fascinating story this is!

A free search on Scotlandspeople website shows the marriage of Allan to Margaret in 1940. It also
shows a marriage of an Allan Neill in 1949, in the same general area of the country as the first marriage.  Also, births of several children, one in 1949 and other "possibles" later,  judging by one of the names and also the areas in which they were registered.

Of course, we're now at a point in time where his wife might still be alive and some/all of the children are probably alive, so I have left out names.

More interesting by the minute!!!

A

[SHUSHIE]

Just a quick question when you are given a service number in WW2 will that number stay with you through your service? has the number given on the name of father Allan Neill and service number keeps popping up has a different person with that number also British in the British Army?  If anyone knows about the service numbers I would be gratefull.......

[Annette7]

Just a quick question when you are given a service number in WW2 will that number stay with you through your service? has the number given on the name of father Allan Neill and service number keeps popping up has a different person with that number also British in the British Army?  If anyone knows about the service numbers I would be gratefull.......

You mentioned this before and on page 1 of this thread MaxD explained that WW2 records are not available online as still with the MOD.    If you are entering the service number that's on the birth certificate in a search of army records online (Ancestry or FindMyPast) any result is relating to WW1 not WW2.

As to the divorce which was obviously between 1942 and 1948 (again, no details are available online) it could have been in Scotland or England.

Annette

[SHUSHIE]

Just a quick question when you are given a service number in WW2 will that number stay with you through your service? has the number given on the name of father Allan Neill and service number keeps popping up has a different person with that number also British in the British Army?  If anyone knows about the service numbers I would be gratefull.......

You mentioned this before and on page 1 of this thread MaxD explained that WW2 records are not available online as still with the MOD.    If you are entering the service number that's on the birth certificate in a search of army records online (Ancestry or FindMyPast) any result is relating to WW1 not WW2.

As to the divorce which was obviously between 1942 and 1948 (again, no details are available online) it could have been in Scotland or England.

Annette

The reason I asked again is because I have joined Forces War Records and info of soldiers in WW2 are availably to access all with service numbers?......

[KGarrad]

Hmmm - maybe not a good move?

Nearly all of the records on Forces War Records are available on other websites.
And WW2 Service Records are ONLY available via the MOD.

There are opinions here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=713127.0

[groom]

Does Forces War Records have a forum, if so it might be worth asking on there. According to one site

.        The British Army was renumbered in 1920. All soldiers were given a unique 7 digit number which remained with them throughout their service career. It is this number that you need when applying for a post 1920 Service Record.                                 

It could be that if Margaret gave the information that she got one number wrong, or perhaps it was written down incorrectly. Do you have the original birth certificate or a copy?