Robert Laver & Hannah Fairhead

[warwickb]

Thank you both very much.
This is definitely getting complicated and a puzzle.
Agreed we have at least two Roberts and possibly a third. I need some time to work out the permutations.
That said:
Robert 1 (who marries Elizabeth UNK pre 1742) would probably be born circa 1722 or earlier)
Robert 2 (who marries Hannah Bird 1748 was already a widower and therefore likely born circa mid 1720's or earlier as well).  Therefore there is another earlier marriage out there.

If my Robert  who m Henrietta (aged 19) in 1761 was one of these two he would have been at around 40 or older. Not improbable but I note Jon's observation about him being a bachelor. If he was bachelor and a similar age to Henrietta he would be born circa  1740/42.

Robert (1761) son of Robert & Henrietta named his children in order Ann, Robert, Elizabeth & George. Conventional naming would suggest first b daughter after wife's mother, first son after father's father (Robert?), second daughter after fathers mother - that would be Elizabeth which would point to Robert 1 above. 
Therefore locating Robert 1's marriage to Elizabeth and seeing if any earlier children i.e a Robert might be helpful.

Thank you again NannyJ and Jon
Cheers
Warwick
PS I'm in the other side of the world in NZ so reacting to this with time difference!

[nannyj]

Ha. I noticed th NZ bit.
I'm just looking at bocking as there is a Joshua laver who marries in cressing around the same time for a 1720s Robert or a 1730s marriage..

I did find Esther's death: 18/8/1734 cressing.
I also found a Sarah born to Robert and Elizabeth laver 29/6/1735 ... so it's looking like this elisabeth followed Esther at any rate?

It might make Roberts birth, and theirs, more like 1710. In my experience the traditional naming is father and mothers names for first girl and boy, not grandparents.

[warwickb]

Thank you Nannj for your continued help
You mention Esther - I may have missed it but is there a Robert m to an Esther too?

If you found a Sarah b 1735 to Robert & Elizabeth and then we have Henry b 1742 there is a gap there of a few years - likely other children too.

Yep you are right - it is parents birth first - so going back to Robert 1761  works for father but doesn't for mother!

Regards
Warwick

[nannyj]

Yes ... go back four posts. I know what you mean ... I'm having to write it all down!

[warwickb]

Thank you - agreed a lot of information - and meant to be doing some work too!

I'll take a look over lunch. I like the look of that of those Robert births!

Cheers
Warwick

[nannyj]

Meant to say ... the Robert of Robert and Esther 1735 is buried the day after he was baptised, so discount him. Think the 1739 one could be the. Husband of Henrietta and father of your 1762 one. Maybe the others are red herrings and are cousins/ uncles etc

[hanes teulu]

Robert Laver "sightings" -

An exact list of the names of the gentlemen and other freeholders that voted for a knight of the shire for the county of  Essex - taken 31 Mar 1715

Name and place (ie. abode) of freeholder - Robert Laver, Halsted
Where freehold lieth - Halsted

1763 election
Name and where freehold lies - Robert Laver Jnr, Braintree
Abode - Braintree

1768 election
Laver Robert Snr - abode Braintree, freehhold Braintree
Laver Robert Jnr - abode Braintree, freehold Braintree

1774 election
Laver Robert Junior - abode Braintree, freehold Braintree
Laver Robert Senior - abode Braintree, freehold Braintree

In 1776 a Robert Laver, Prittlewell is a subscriber to  the publication "A paraphrase on the Book of Isaiah"

In 1792 a Robert Laver, Prittlewell is appointed a commissioner re. an act to drain and improve the island of Canvey.   

[hanes teulu]

FindMyPast burials
Elizabeth Laver, age 82, buried 30 Jun 1828, Ingatestone

The Ipswich Journal, 28 Jun 1828 has the burial notice of Mrs Laver, of Huskards, Ingatestone, relict of the late Robert Laver, formerly of Prittlewell Temple

[warwickb]

Thank you Hanes.
All information greatly received. I particularly like the Census information which implies the two Roberts were together as junior and senior.

Nannyj - I thought I had posted earlier today but it appears to have disappeared - possibly didn't load up.

Having looked through the permutations I think we have Robert (m1761) as son of Robert and Elizabeth bapt July 1739.

And I have had success finding Henrietta Bedwell! She was bapt 17 Dec 1742 Braintree, dau of Richard and Hannah Bedwell  b 18th Sept.

Now need to locate marriage of Richard Laver and Elizabeth UNK and Richard Bedwell and Hannah UNK. Looks like another subscription of SEAX coming up.

Thank you everyone for your assistance - will have to capture all this in a form that can be understood easily

Regards
Warwick