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Details on marriage certificate
« on: Tuesday 22 August 17 19:24 BST (UK) »
I've tracked down and ordered the marriage certificate for my great grandparents but am having a little difficulty with the following information:
Rank/profession for John Davis
Residence for both John and Johanna
Fathers profession for Johanna
Witness names
Church name
Was wondering if anyone would be able to help.
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Re: Details on marriage certificate
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 19:31 BST (UK) »
I see John as an Engineer

Joanna's father, a Railway porter

Witnesses  Joseph and Mary Caulfield
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Re: Details on marriage certificate
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 19:46 BST (UK) »
My attempt....

1 - Engineer
2 - Shi-ckall?
3 - Railway Porter
4 - Joseph & Mary Caulfield
5 - Church of Trinity ----land?

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Re: Details on marriage certificate
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 19:56 BST (UK) »
I agree with the occupations of Engineer and Railway Porter -- and the witnesses as Joseph and Mary Caulfield.

The Church looks something like 'the Roman Catholic Church of Trinity Without' in Waterford No 2 ?'

The residence is a struggle -- could begin with Sh or Sl -- thought it might be Slicockall - but there doesn't seem to be any such place.

Try searching the Irish Townlands Database for Waterford -- there may be something similar on there.
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Re: Details on marriage certificate
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 20:06 BST (UK) »
I think it’s written Slievekall.

So how about Slievekeale ?
https://www.townlands.ie/waterford/slievekeale/

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Re: Details on marriage certificate
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 20:31 BST (UK) »
In 1911 Johanna Blanche was living at 4 O'Connell St, Waterford West in the Parish of Trinity Without -- unfortunately there is no mention of the strange address shown on the marriage cert.

You can search the census for locations -- may be worth a go at that;
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/help/locationsearch.html
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Re: Details on marriage certificate
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 20:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone. Really appreciate the help. :)

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Re: Details on marriage certificate
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 21:22 BST (UK) »
I inclined to go with Silverkeale as well, it's in the area of Trinity Without but isn't marked on old maps but can be found under locations and as a street today.
Modern
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,659681,611899,10,3
Old
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,659681,611899,10,9

You know the marriage is online
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09932/5611323.pdf


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Re: Details on marriage certificate
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 08:39 BST (UK) »
 Slieve s the name for hill or mountain and comes I think from the word Sliabh.  The first part looks more like Slieve than Silver, to me anyway.  The second part may start with an 'R'  SlieveR***

Slieveroe is in the Electoral Division of Pembrokestown, in Civil Parish of Lisnakill, in the Barony of Middlethird, in the County of Waterford.
The Irish name for Slieveroe is An Sliabh Rua
Above from https://www.townlands.ie


Griffiths also has a Slieveroe in Co Waterford but neither family is there at that time.

In the 1911 census (2/4/1911) there are two  Johanna Blanches -  older 56 and younger 22 as servants in the home/shop of Elizabeth Dobbyn who lives in O'Connell Street in Waterford.  Johanna senior shows herself as widow.  My experience is that sometimes wedding certificates did not show that the fathers are dead.  If this Johanna Blanche getting married is the same as in the census time may have stood still, a little, as she is 22 in April 1911 and also in October 1912.  She presumably gave the info to the priest while her employer has completed the census.  She may not have wanted to be too much older than her husband!

The name of the church is Trinity Without.As mentioned above  O'Connell street is in this parish and this may be the parish church if the younger Johanna working at Elizabeth Dobbyns is the one you are looking for.