Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill

[jonsops]

Welcome to RootsChat
This is the area in 1857 http://maps.nls.uk/view/102341479#zoom=5&lat=7166&lon=1885&layers=BT

Street numbering did not become formalised in towns until the 1850s at the earliest. Census enumerators were given very clear instructions with regard to the provision of address data. In 1841 it was only necessary to give the name, if any, of the house, part of the town, village or hamlet in which it stood.
This map shows the present aerial view
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=54.9402&lon=-1.5870&layers=171&right=BingHyb
Stan

Thank you, stanmapstone.
This is a very nice map with great detail. I will re-read the enumerators notes and from them I think I will be able to find the area covered.
Regards, John

[jonsops]

This map may help you to locate the area.  From the enumerator's walk, Team Waggon Way is mentioned, and the map shows Team Colliery with a railway line close by.

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#

Thanks BumbleB, that is a very handy link 

In 2008 member 'MIS' posted "Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?".
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=336723.0
This forum was closed by moderator 'sillgen' in May 2012.

Is anyone living near there able to pick this one up?
My GG Grandfather lived on Sheriff Hill in the 1841 Census.
I would like to find what the actual address was and if the house is still there.
The Census Page is at http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1841&indiv=try&h=4901729
Name: James Soppet age 30. Also his wife Rebecca and 5 children.

Hi jonsops,

I live a couple of miles away, if you can get an address from a later Census, I can take a look for you.

A number of my ancestors lived (and died) in Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill, and I was born at the Hospital across the road 

Great to hear from you, gmichaelking.
Regrettably, we can't use the next census because they had moved to Tyneside.
However, I will read the enumerators directions from the 1841 census and PM you.
I am a quite competent map reader and should now be able to establish the locality.
Regards, John

[jonsops]

In 2008 member 'MIS' posted "Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?".
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=336723.0
This forum was closed by moderator 'sillgen' in May 2012.

Is anyone living near there able to pick this one up?
My GG Grandfather lived on Sheriff Hill in the 1841 Census.
I would like to find what the actual address was and if the house is still there.
The Census Page is at http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1841&indiv=try&h=4901729
Name: James Soppet age 30. Also his wife Rebecca and 5 children.

To everyone who responded.
I never expected so many prompt replies.
I have just joined Rootschat and am very encouraged.
Your info is very good and I have learned much.
You are all great people.

I live in Auckland, New Zealand and if I can help anyone with info on this neck of the woods.
I am a retiree and have been studying the genealogy of my ancestors since 1989.
I am a committee member of the Waitakere Branch of the New Zealand Society of Genealogists (NZSG) and a commiitee member of West Auckland Historical Society (WAHS)
The names I am studyong are: SOPPET (SOPPIT), HARRISON, THOMPSON & BRINKWORTH. All originate from England direct to NZ, except Brinkworth is via South Australia.
Best wishes, John

[gmichaelking]

...https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBC-N2L
Reference is HO107; Piece: 296; Folio: 15; Page 25

If you go to the 1st page, there should be a description of the enumeration district....

Hi KGarrad,

Can you explain how(where) to search for particular pages please?

I'm a bit clueless about all things Enumerator I'm afraid.

Thanks

[jonsops]

...https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBC-N2L
Reference is HO107; Piece: 296; Folio: 15; Page 25

If you go to the 1st page, there should be a description of the enumeration district....

Hi KGarrad,

Can you explain how(where) to search for particular pages please?

I'm a bit clueless about all things Enumerator I'm afraid.

Thanks

Hi gmichaelking.
I can help you with this.
You have two courses of action.
One is with Ancestry or the other is with Family Search + findmypast. In both cases you will need a membership with one or the other.

First, using the case KGarrad has given: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBC-N2L
This opens the transcript. Here you will read:
This image is available:
•   At findmypast. By clicking here you will be leaving FamilySearch.org (fees and other terms may apply).
•   When using the site at a family history center.
•   To signed-in members of supporting organizations.
Plus a 'Sign In' button to Family Search. This is followed by another button “Visit Partner Site”.
The image of the census page that contains the transcript opens.
At the left of the screen is an arrow pointing left. Click the arrow until you arrive at page one where you will find the instructions to the Enumerator (Person who carried out the survey)

Second, in the case I presented in my original post using Ancestry.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1841&indiv=try&h=4901729
This opens at the transcript. On left is a miniature of the page image. Click the ‘View’ button.
This opens the image of the Census page.
At the bottom of your screen is a small rectangular box that tells you where in the Census document the page is. It is image 14 with a light grey background. Click the 14 and enter a 1. A GO button appears – click it and page one will open.
Read the handwritten instructions beginning “Description of ditto . . . “. This tells the Enumerator where he is to collect household information from.
I hope this helps you.
Regards, John

[KGarrad]

jonsops - thanks for posting that while I was at my GP!

It's exactly what I would have written.

[gmichaelking]

Thanks guys 

Very helpful, will be adopting this from now on.