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Gt Uncle last seen on 1930 census, Social Security Death Index found.
« on: Wednesday 16 August 17 10:15 BST (UK) »
Hello
I am after obtaining a death certificate for my Gt Uncle Albert Edward Dyton who was naturalised in New York in 1927 after travelling from Bombay where my gt grandad and grandmother lived. I have found his death index as follows:
DoB 17 August 1902 
Died  February 1968 
SSN  050-10-6013  issued New York
Death Residence -     ZIP Code 10011

The last information I can see of him on a census is on the 1930 census living at 108 Buena Vista Avenue employed as a designer working for the Otis company. His surname showing as 'Deyton'.
I have looked up the 1940 census but I cannot find anything for him.
As I am trying to find out as much as possible about my gt uncle and cannot get further info on later census returns I am trying to request his death certificate, maybe he married or not.
The problem is on the the VitalChek website I get as far as the 'Relationship' menu I cannot find an appropriate relationship option to chose from. Surely I wouldn't denied access as he was my grandmother's brother, even if I did it on behalf of my mother who would be his niece there isn't an option. If anyone has had experience of obtaining a certificate this way or have any advice about obtaining it I would be very grateful indeed.
There was a similar post I did on here 7 years ago but not about finding anymore about my gt uncle's life in New York.

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Payne's from Elgin Scotland and Burnet Texas,
Wilsons from Moreton Cheshire,
Burton's from Garsdale, Bootle, Birkenhead, Kendal's from Westmorland,
Mitchell's from Birkenhead Cheshire and Dyserth North Wales.
Dyton's from St Albans, Kidderpore India, Mhow India and New York.

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Re: Gt Uncle last seen on 1930 census, Social Security Death Index found.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 10:44 BST (UK) »
The previous post as mentioned: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=446897.0

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Re: Gt Uncle last seen on 1930 census, Social Security Death Index found.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 10:59 BST (UK) »
He is mentioned here,  3rd last paragraph, 1st column:

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Re: Gt Uncle last seen on 1930 census, Social Security Death Index found.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 11:16 BST (UK) »
Hi
Thanks for the reply, I have seen that newspaper article whilst on many of my google searches for my gt uncle, thus being dated 1934 this actually the latest piece of information on my gt uncle contrary to me saying it was the 1930 census. I have read this extract a few times and tried to gather some sort of understanding from it to see what my gt uncle was up to over in America. From then on until 1968 it goes silent until his death in 1968 where I have the info on his death index. I wish he wasn't so hard to look up.
Many thanks.
Payne's from Elgin Scotland and Burnet Texas,
Wilsons from Moreton Cheshire,
Burton's from Garsdale, Bootle, Birkenhead, Kendal's from Westmorland,
Mitchell's from Birkenhead Cheshire and Dyserth North Wales.
Dyton's from St Albans, Kidderpore India, Mhow India and New York.


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Re: Gt Uncle last seen on 1930 census, Social Security Death Index found.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 11:41 BST (UK) »
One issue with ordering a death record is that the SSDI never gives a place of death.  Sometimes people die at their place of last residence, but not always.  If he did die in New York City, a great nephew would not qualify to get such a recent death certificate.  http://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/services/death-certificates.page

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 11:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks
Well that puts a stop to that then no more I can do then. I'll probably be the only person ever to request that form. Have to say I'm a little annoyed that i may be the only other person who wants to find out about him but because of my relationship I'm denied. I suppose a photo and a 1930 census extract is all I'll know about him, knowing that there is a death certificate out there I would pay for.

Ahh well.
Payne's from Elgin Scotland and Burnet Texas,
Wilsons from Moreton Cheshire,
Burton's from Garsdale, Bootle, Birkenhead, Kendal's from Westmorland,
Mitchell's from Birkenhead Cheshire and Dyserth North Wales.
Dyton's from St Albans, Kidderpore India, Mhow India and New York.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 12:21 BST (UK) »
Yes, New York City is rather strict with their records.  You'd be better off if he died in New York state outside of the city, as they have a 50 year waiting period for death records, so it would be available next year.

1931 Yonkers, New York city directory has this:
Dyton, Albert E., shipping clerk, resides 130 Highland av.

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 14:00 BST (UK) »
Thank you.
Yeah it was a bit selfish of him to pop his clogs where he did  :)
 
Though if that is my gt uncle in the 1931 listing he had a change of job from a desinger to a shopping clerk within a year. ???
Though it must be him again though reckon, if you don't mind me asking, how did access the directories? If I had access I suppose I could try and see how far I could get...i don't know. :)
Payne's from Elgin Scotland and Burnet Texas,
Wilsons from Moreton Cheshire,
Burton's from Garsdale, Bootle, Birkenhead, Kendal's from Westmorland,
Mitchell's from Birkenhead Cheshire and Dyserth North Wales.
Dyton's from St Albans, Kidderpore India, Mhow India and New York.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 14:19 BST (UK) »
There aren't Yonkers city directories online for every year.  The only later one available, as far as I know, is 1936, and he doesn't appear in there.