Mystery can't find relative after marriage possibly Chinese spouse

[Hirondelle]

Hello,

I'm trying to track down a relative called Eliza Ching nee Redmond. She was born in Liverpool in 1871 to Michael Redmond and Elizabeth Ann Radford.

I just by chance today discovered that she married to a gentleman called James Ching in 1889. I'm aware that Ching is a surname associated with Devon & Cornwall but the fact that Jame's father is named as Ah Jim on their marriage bann led me to believe James was possibly Chinese.

I also tried working out the street but I can't read the handwriting. I have also searched via occupation, with various different spellings of the name, no children with the surname Ching appear to have been registered in Liverpool.

I can't find any trace of them at all, leading me to think they migrated. Any thoughts?

Thank you

[Rosinish]

Residence at time of marriage is 9 St. Vincent Street

Annie

[Hirondelle]

Thank you, that's what I thought. I'll check how near that is to the church which has since been demolished I believe and if that street appears on the 1891 census.

[Rosinish]

I noticed it was a Jewish Church wedding i.e. not sure they would be of Chinese origin?

Annie

Edit....I was thinking Judaism but Mr Google confirms the above 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China

[Hirondelle]

I think that word is parish, it looks like the same as the parish written at the top of the page.


EDIT.

Hmm possibly? There are lots of Chinese names on the 1911 census for Liverpool, I tried searching the crews list too as his occupation is steward. I could be completely wrong though Ah Jim Ching could be transcribed incorrectly, I can't find a registration for a James Ching in 1855 either. And no one on Ancestry appears to have picked up on this either, their research for Eliza Redmond ends in 1881.

Can anyone make out the surname of the witness?

[Rosinish]

I think that word is parish, it looks like the same as the parish written at the top of the page.

Yes it is, no wonder it didn't say Synagogue which confused me 

Annie

[Rosinish]

Can anyone make out the surname of the witness?

The witnesses look like:

Peter Chungting & Maria Eliza Moilt 

Maybe a little help?

Annie

[garstonite]

Marriage: 29 Dec 1866 St George, Derby Square, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
 John Kelly - Full, Warehouseman, Batchelor, 15 William St, Dale St
 Elizabeth Ching - Full, Spinster, Olive Mount, Wavertree
     Groom's Father: John Kelly, Farmer
     Bride's Father: Thomas Ching, Mason
     Witness: John Parker; Elizabeth Ollis
     Married by Banns by: J S Thomas
     Register: Marriages 1837 - 1868, Page 239, Entry 477
     Source: LDS Film 1656195
see if Elizabeth Ching is in Liverpool in 1851 and 1861 census - may show other family members ?

ADDED
Mary Ching b 1836 Liverpool
Sarah Ching b 1840 Liverpool

Jessie Edith Ching baptised 27th sept 1881 St Peter ,Liverpool
father James Dark Ching
mother Mary Jane .............
same couple have John L Ching 1877 b Liverpool
.......................................................................................
William G Ching b 1978 b Liverpool
Emily C Ching b 1880 b Liverpool
have a look on www.familysearch.org    .. - a lot of records for Ching in Liverpool
good luck
 

[bitzar]

A bit off subject but:

Peter Chungting d. Liverpool 1894, bc 1845.
Peter Chungting d. Liverpool 1890, bc 1886, maybe his son.  Cant find this Peter born 1885-1887 on GRO.
On Anc*, Peter Chungting, a storekeeper of 31 Frederick St, Liverpool.

I cant see the first Peter on the 1891.

I have only a vague experience with Chinese name research.  It was often written in a western hand how it sounded.

The OH once told me something about the 'Ah' as in Ah Jim.  If I can add any extra I will EDIT later.

bitzar.