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Offline Joanna Tolhurst

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Re: August 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #126 on: Wednesday 10 August 05 18:07 BST (UK) »
Philip is destined to elude us, even a earlier marriage for a Philip Bell at Hexham Northumberland Dec qtr 1842 has no one else on the page at Ancestry.co!!
Doesn't feel right somehow for Philip and Margaret to marry in Gateshead when both are down as being born local to Denton in the censuses and the children were born local as well.
John was in Gateshead in 1891 boarding with sister Jane and family.  I guess her husband Thomas Richardson moved over for work in the mines as he was a colliery engineer.  John could have just been in Gateshead through hearing about work from his sister.
On the other hand I can't see Philip being down in the marriage registers with another name since his name has been consistant.
TOLHURST - Hastings  OSBORN - East Sussex
GOLDSACK - Hastings & Kent
HAINES - IOW, Portsmouth  ALEXANDRE - Guernsey
CLARKE - Portsmouth  BREEDON - Portsmouth, Nottinghamshire
HORNBY,  KING,  WILKENS,  GOODAIR  - all London
GRAHAM - Portsmouth, briefly Canada, Fife
MCINTOCH, STEWART, DUNSYRE, SIM, BONAR, RUSSELL, TRAIL - Fife
HUGHES - Glamorgan, Herefordshire   NICHOLAS - Breconshire
ROSE, KEMP, SEAGER, SIMS, KNEE, BOX - Wiltshire

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Re: August 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #127 on: Wednesday 10 August 05 18:24 BST (UK) »

Doesn't feel right somehow for Philip and Margaret to marry in Gateshead when both are down as being born local to Denton in the censuses and the children were born local as well.


Mary may have come with parents to our area at young age, then returned to ancestral home for marriage?


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Re: August 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #128 on: Thursday 11 August 05 16:16 BST (UK) »
Philip is destined to elude us, even a earlier marriage for a Philip Bell at Hexham Northumberland Dec qtr 1842 has no one else on the page at Ancestry.co!!


Hexham Marriages Vol 25 Page 349

BIRKIT, Thomas   1842 December Marriages Hexham  Northumberland
Johnson, Ann     1842 December Marriages Hexham  Northumberland
Ridley, Isabella 1842 December Marriages Hexham  Northumberland


Looking at the image for Philip Bell, he should be on this page.


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Re: August 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #129 on: Thursday 11 August 05 16:43 BST (UK) »
Just checked the image of the index for q Dec 1842 and it definitely says 25 349 for Philip.

Unfortunately I think there were 4 couples per page in the registers of this period so we're still missing 4 people including the person Philip married.  We're fairly certain he didn't marry Isabella or Ann and even more certain he didn't marry Thomas  ;D

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Re: August 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #130 on: Friday 12 August 05 08:48 BST (UK) »
Need someone who has this microfiche to find our Philip:

Croglin, Farlam, Nether Denton & Over Denton Baptisms, Marriages & Burials 1813-1839   £4.50     
Indexed by G. Bell & C. Yellowley.


 
TOLHURST - Hastings  OSBORN - East Sussex
GOLDSACK - Hastings & Kent
HAINES - IOW, Portsmouth  ALEXANDRE - Guernsey
CLARKE - Portsmouth  BREEDON - Portsmouth, Nottinghamshire
HORNBY,  KING,  WILKENS,  GOODAIR  - all London
GRAHAM - Portsmouth, briefly Canada, Fife
MCINTOCH, STEWART, DUNSYRE, SIM, BONAR, RUSSELL, TRAIL - Fife
HUGHES - Glamorgan, Herefordshire   NICHOLAS - Breconshire
ROSE, KEMP, SEAGER, SIMS, KNEE, BOX - Wiltshire

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Re: August 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #131 on: Friday 12 August 05 12:13 BST (UK) »
carol80 posted this link     Page 2

http://edenlinks.rootsweb.com/1gp/ak/INDEX.HTM


Atkinson - Bell in North Cumberland

B, M & D


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Re: August 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #132 on: Friday 12 August 05 12:52 BST (UK) »
I checked through that link a number of times.  It has Births, marriages and burials at St. Cuthbert's, Nether Denton and St. Mary Magdalene, Lanercost. Although there seem to be some entries at Lanercost of people living at Upper Denton, there seems to have a church at Upper (Over) Denton as well.
TOLHURST - Hastings  OSBORN - East Sussex
GOLDSACK - Hastings & Kent
HAINES - IOW, Portsmouth  ALEXANDRE - Guernsey
CLARKE - Portsmouth  BREEDON - Portsmouth, Nottinghamshire
HORNBY,  KING,  WILKENS,  GOODAIR  - all London
GRAHAM - Portsmouth, briefly Canada, Fife
MCINTOCH, STEWART, DUNSYRE, SIM, BONAR, RUSSELL, TRAIL - Fife
HUGHES - Glamorgan, Herefordshire   NICHOLAS - Breconshire
ROSE, KEMP, SEAGER, SIMS, KNEE, BOX - Wiltshire

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Re: August 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #133 on: Friday 12 August 05 13:01 BST (UK) »
On that site I found baptism of John Bell, s. of Philip & Margaret, b. 1867

If you search there, try "Phillip",  two 'el'

I am still 'analyzing the data' !


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Re: August 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #134 on: Friday 12 August 05 13:19 BST (UK) »
Looking at the Bells born Nether Denton in the 1861 and then trying to find them on the IGI brought up:
Edward Bell chr 13 Feb 1820 Nether Denton mother Margaret Bell C059461
Edward Bell chr 13 Feb 1820 Over Denton mother Margaret Bell C059431

Both batch numbers link to same list.
TOLHURST - Hastings  OSBORN - East Sussex
GOLDSACK - Hastings & Kent
HAINES - IOW, Portsmouth  ALEXANDRE - Guernsey
CLARKE - Portsmouth  BREEDON - Portsmouth, Nottinghamshire
HORNBY,  KING,  WILKENS,  GOODAIR  - all London
GRAHAM - Portsmouth, briefly Canada, Fife
MCINTOCH, STEWART, DUNSYRE, SIM, BONAR, RUSSELL, TRAIL - Fife
HUGHES - Glamorgan, Herefordshire   NICHOLAS - Breconshire
ROSE, KEMP, SEAGER, SIMS, KNEE, BOX - Wiltshire