August 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[Joanna Tolhurst]

There's been a busy 9 hours whilst I've been sleeping More than enough for me to have to start summarising.  I've got to quickly finish inputting in the computer programme all my mother's reasearch data on her mother's family (almost done 300 individuals over the weekend!) before she goes home this morning, and then I'll get my head round what's been uncovered here.

Re. daughter in laws family.  Details on the families that our heroes family married into all help build up a picture of him and his family and add to the story. Should we come across descendants, those details may well be directly relevant.  It helps if you title the posting 'P. B.'s son's wife' or something similar so that we can all easily see whereabouts on the thread you are.

(There was a picture book I used to sell in a previous life about P B Bear, so now I've got a completely bizarre image of Philip Bell )

Jo

[Lloydy]

Well folks, I'm off to do some housework (much rather be doing this!!!) so good luck with all the searching.

Hope someone is clever enough to find Philips Bell's parents

No doubt when I get back on RC tonight this thread will be massive


Jan

[Burrow Digger]

Wow, do you folks realise just how close Upper Denton & Haltwhistle are to Hadrians Wall?
Thats an interesting piece of history.
Hope the map link works 

map

Yaay it works - edited for width 

[JAP]

Hi BD,

Now that is really fascinating!

Map link works perfectly.

JAP
PS: The only trouble is that the URL is so long that it's sent the page into a sideways scroll.  Trystan once told me how to avoid this.  Not sure if I can explain easily
You put (without any spaces)
a square bracket
then
url=and enter whatever the long url is, then close the square bracket
then type Click Here
then put a square bracket, a forward slash, url, and close the square bracket.

It's much clearer on the RootsChat Help Pages - Posting - Bulletin Board Code at:
http://www.rootschat.com/help/posting.shtml
(though there's an instruction there which might mean I shouldn't have posted that url ....

[Burrow Digger]

Thanks for the info JAP.
As you can see I have successfuly edited the map link.   

BD

[Joanna Tolhurst]

Summaries posted in same format as last months.  Page numbers in brackets refer to the page on this thread where the info is.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,77741.0.html

[cep]

Possible daughter Jane in 1881

1881  RG11 5109 111 p22
Halton Lea Gate, Hartleyburn, Northumberland

Thomas Richardson, head, mar, 22, Coal Miner, b. Knarsdale, Cumberland
Jane Richardson, wife, mar, 23, b. Midgeholme, Cumberland
Margaret Richardson, dau, 2, b. Halton Lea Gate
Philip B Richardson, son, 2w, b. Halton Lea Gate


Possible Marriage 1877 Q1 Cockermouth 10b 725
2 couples on the page, including
BELL, Jane Bodkin
RICHARDSON, Thomas


Cockermouth is too far from home.
But children's names are interesting.
And BODKIN ??


CP

[Joanna Tolhurst]

Jane could have been in service in Cockermouth; I've got girls marrying in Middlesex when home was Trowbridge Wilts.  We've already had one helpful mother's surname passed down as a middle name to Anthony's son Samuel, Bodkin may be worth following as a lead.

1851 census index has Philip Bell age 40 at Haltwhistle piece 2416 folio 214.  Wrong age but right place considering dau Jane was born there c 1858.

Jo

[Joanna Tolhurst]

Philip Bell's birthplace found on http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/cumbria/upperdenton.html

Denton (Upper) Parish

Is a small district, bounded on the east by Northumberland, on the south by Nether Denton, and on the west and north by the river Irthing. It is of a triangular form, intersected by the Newcastle and Carlisle Railway, and contains only 860 acres, rated at £1058 3s., and 127 inhabitants.

Upper Denton is a small village, six miles E. of Brampton; and here is situate the Church1, a very humble building. The benefice is a curacy, in the patronage of the earl of Carlisle, and incumbency of the Rev. Isaac Dodgson, M.A. It was certified to the ecclesiastical commissioners at £47 per ann., all of which arises from lands purchased with queen Anne's bounty, except 20s. a year paid by the earl of Carlisle, who is the largest landowner in this parish. The church was anciently granted to Lanercost priory, by Hugh Pudsey, bishop of Durham, to whose diocese it then belonged. At Mumpshall, a small hamlet in the parish, we have been pointed out the house in which lived Margaret Teasdale the Meg Merrilies of Sir Walter Scott's celebrated romance of "Guy Mannering;" and also her grave in the church yard of this parish. Near the Mains, on the south side of the river Irthing, is a spring, which petrifies the moss through which it passes, in its course to the river.

 

Mannix & Whellan, History, Gazetteer and Directory of Cumberland, 1847