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Offline JenB

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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 21:13 BST (UK) »
It also says he is a journeyman sailor instead of journeyman tailor - transcription error I suspect? Gah not concrete enough!

Tailor & Sailor are often mixed up on the transcriptions.

Annie

Have you looked at the original? You could look elsewhere on the page to see how the writer formed an 'S' as opposed to a 'T' to check whether the word really is sailor rather than tailor.
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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 21:16 BST (UK) »
IT might be worth getting his birth certificate to see what is date of birth was given then. As his baptism was nearly 2 years after his birth the date given at baptism could be wrong.

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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 21:17 BST (UK) »
Have you checked the birth date for the 2 people you've found? It is possible using the free search, albeit a bit tedious. Enter the exact birth year and then work through the months until you get a match, and then do the same for the days.

That said, if he is a bigamist I doubt if he'd have any scruples about fibbing about his birth date.

Do you mean on the 1939 register? I haven't paid to see the record yet.  He does only appear once though, so maybe that is the reason to pay if he gives 9th Jan then I know he is the man I thought he was.
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Ok so I bought credits(in 2nd wife's house)  his birthdate states 16th Jan 1875, where as the parish record I think belongs to him is the 9th Jan though it isn't recorded until 14th Oct 1877, noting his birth date as 9th Jan 1875. So 7 days out.  It also says he is a journeyman sailor instead of journeyman tailor - transcription error I suspect? Gah not concrete enough!

Sorry, I should have explained better and could have saved you the money.

Bit late now but for future reference, if you go to the advanced search you can enter the exact year, month and day. As the free search displays the exact birth year you just need to search using the year and months (1-12) until the search returns the record you're interested in. You now know the exact birth year and month. Repeat the process with the days, entering the year, month and day (1-31), until the search returns the record you're interested in. You should then have the exact birth date, and all without paying!

There are a couple of gotchas with this process (other than it being a bit tedious), sometimes the birth date isn't recorded or transcribed in full, so can't be matched on using exact dates. Occasionally the transcribed date is for the wrong record, due to the way the transcriptions were done (ie by column rather than row, for privacy reasons apparently). This is only apparent when looking at the image itself.
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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 21:52 BST (UK) »
Does your local library have access to FindMyPast?
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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 22:01 BST (UK) »
If your almost certain he was a bigamist then there should be a 2nd marriage & would be worth it... save waiting 4 years.

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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 22:24 BST (UK) »
I used the free index "cheats", paid for some then got the rest when it became available free on the library version. It's great to have the date of births but I missed the place of births that are on census records.


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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 22:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks cuffie81 - that's a wiley coyote tip!

dawnsh - sadly not. 

If your almost certain he was a bigamist then there should be a 2nd marriage & would be worth it... save waiting 4 years.

Annie

Annie - I have both certs for marriage 1 (1898) and marriage 2 (1915).

They have the same groom name except for the 2nd middle name, age correct to 1875, same groom's occupation, same father's name and occupation (kind of.. glove cutter and fabric cutter, both appeared on his father's census at some point). 

The only points of oddity are:

1. Wife number 1 doesn't die.
2. Wife number 1 doesn't seem to remarry.
3. Wife number 1 calls herself married in 1939 but her husband is not there
4. 2nd marriage he calls himself a bachelor

I don't know how to trace a divorce?

The one piece of documentary evidence that would nail this is something in writing that states the man married to my grt grandma (wife 2) is from Somerset.  That will be proven in the 1921 census (fingers crossed).  He was from Somerset according to my Nan (his daughter) and his wife (number 2!) who I knew and spoke to about him.


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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 22:41 BST (UK) »
It also says he is a journeyman sailor instead of journeyman tailor - transcription error I suspect? Gah not concrete enough!

Tailor & Sailor are often mixed up on the transcriptions.

Annie

Have you looked at the original? You could look elsewhere on the page to see how the writer formed an 'S' as opposed to a 'T' to check whether the word really is sailor rather than tailor.

Good idea JenB! It is a T that looks like a an S - there are a few "Shomas" on the page  ;D ;D
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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Re: 1939 Register
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 01 August 17 22:44 BST (UK) »
Are you able to compare his signature on docs from both marriages i.e. births/marriages/1911 census?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"