William Knobbs

[heywood]

Burial of Mary Elizabeth Smith 15 months old 25th April 1849 abode St Ebbes Street

[heywood]

The newspaper reference is quite literally a little snippet.  It says:-

Watlington Aug 10 - William Knobbs was fined 10s and costs, for assaulting Louis Loden, which he immediately paid.

That is all it is.

Yes, it looked similar - not enough to make you change your name   

[lollipoplady]

   Found the snippet thanks.
  Do you think its just a coincidence then and William Charles Knobbs and William Charles Smith are not one and the same.......If so where's the birth for William Smith

[heywood]

I think it highly likely that they are the same person and so is William Smith/Knobbs.

[Girl Guide]

I agree with Heywood.  There are no births registered for a William Charles Smith between 1849 and 1851 for the registration district of Henley.

Why his name was changed from Knobbs to Smith is probably something you will never find out.

[lollipoplady]

 Maybe to cover illigitamacy seeing as the birth of William Knobbs was registered by Mary Knobbs nee Banting the only fib would be that she wasn't Mary Knobbs but Mary Smith.
    Which would be more frightening the fib to the church or to the registra or to your husband.
     Thanks everyone

   Will purchase the marriage certificate.....watch this space

[heywood]

The church certificate is online if you mean William and Mary's.

William himself is referred to by both surnames so I am not sure it is just a coverup for illegitimacy but i can't understand it.

There is another 1843 marriage Of Mary Ann Smith to James Lewis. Her father was also Richard Smith, a tailor.

I can't find this couple in later censuses to check her birthplace. 

[Geoff-E]

There is another 1843 marriage Of Mary Ann Smith to James Lewis. Her father was also Richard Smith, a tailor.

I can't find this couple in later censuses to check her birthplace. 

There's a widowed Mary Ann LEWIS (23) in Oxford (born Oxford, St Thomas) in 1851.  She could (just about) have been aged 16 at marriage.

[heywood]

Thanks Geoff. I had looked at her and thought she was unmarried 

That looks like her though.