Can Anyone Help

[rea1]

I all thanks for help/replies ☺ I put Rose Fascione nee Hearn as 44 when she married in 1912 she was in fact 33.

Re him going to New York from Italy it was told by his grandson whom was told by his late dad Angelantonio's son, but can't remember much more and I also found facts to match on Ancestry if correct. 😕

[LizzieL]

Yes Maureen - could be. It actually says Fasciono [the 'Y's in 'Yorkshire' on same page are different]; there is also a younger Fasciono - Cristiano aged 18. And musician could tie in with Rosie' occupation as organ grinder...Also the family are actually Martino. Note Joseph & Dominica have sons called Angelo & Antony....maybe family names - maybe Dominica is an aunt? They must have moved to England between births of 17 & 12 year old sons.

Liz - the Emily hint may refer to the other Angelo found by Maureen. beware ancestry hints  . Rose on censuses is 8 years younger than Angelo - this may be her wishful thinking...

ADDED: But only if Dominica is a maternal aunt....getting beyond myself here 
MARTINO, ANTONIO       MMN QUAGLERA     
GRO Reference: 1878  S Quarter in LEEDS  Volume 09B  Page 547

Youngest Martino child seems to have different mother
MARTINO, VINCENZO         MMN ANNONIA   
GRO Reference: 1888  D Quarter in LEEDS  Volume 09B  Page 429 

Difference in age between children would fit with a second marriage for Joseph Martino

[LizzieL]

Marriages Q1 Mar 1887  Leeds  9b 610

ANNONI  Maria Dominica       
ENGLAND  Cicely Maud     
MALLINSON  Bethel     
MARTINO  Carminucci 

looks like 2nd marriage but doesn't link the lodgers though

[LizzieL]

Rosie would have been 17 in 1894, so would need parental consent. In 1891 she is with widoed father and siblings in Leeds. A couple of Italian families are neighbours

[LizzieL]

Marriages Q1 Mar 1887  Leeds  9b 610

ANNONI  Maria Dominica       
ENGLAND  Cicely Maud     
MALLINSON  Bethel     
MARTINO  Carminucci 

looks like 2nd marriage but doesn't link the lodgers though

Unless this marriage is the son listed as Carmino on census and Maria Dominica is the Mary listed as daughter age 21 (actually dil) and Vincent is Joseph's grandson not son.
My head hurts!

[rea1]

Thanks Lizziel for your reply. Rose/Rosie and Angelantonio had a son Juan born in 1895, so she was probably expecting hence marrying at 17.

[Rosinish]

Rose/Rosie and Angelantonio had a son Juan born in 1895, so she was probably expecting hence marrying at 17.

Which they didn't.....

From Josey Reply #13...

"Marriages Jun 1912   
Fascione    Angelo    Hern    Leeds    9b   902
Hern    Rose F    Fascione    Leeds    9b   902
Wonder why they didn't marry till 1912?"

Annie

[rea1]

I know Annie it's got me puzzled, not sure if they married in 1894 or 1912.

😕

[Rosinish]

I know Annie it's got me puzzled, not sure if they married in 1894 or 1912.

The reference Josey provided is the actual marriage which can be found on GRO site although this needs to be ordered as it is not available online.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Certificates cost £9.25 including postage.


Annie