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Re: Can't find two of these people
« Reply #9 on: Monday 24 July 17 16:15 BST (UK) »
I don't think the Barnes connection is correct.  I have found a Eveline McPherson on the 1901 census with mother Elizabeth.  Checked some of the other children and the mother is a Barnes:

Household Members:   
Name   Age
Elizabeth McPherson   53  widow
John D McPherson   25
Ernest A McPherson   24
Bessie McPherson   23
Charles McPherson   21
Isabel McPherson   16
Eveline McPherson   14
George McPherson   11
Denham [Hertford & London], Carter [Somerset], Francis, Badger [Pembroke, Glamorgan]

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Re: Can't find two of these people
« Reply #10 on: Monday 24 July 17 16:17 BST (UK) »
Quote from: RayDen on Monday 24 July 17 16:01 BST (UK)
The 1891 census has Fred & Emma living with Freds parents and 2 children Frederick  and Jessy.  The original does look like Jessy but could also possibly be Lilly:


"Jessy" is enumerated as a 3 yr old girl (born Stepney) but I think that the child was in fact a son of Emma's first marriage.

Marriage of Emma Knox to Jesse Mills: Dec qtr 1887 Bethnal Green.

Birth reg of Jesse William Mills, mmn Knox: Sep qtr 1888 Mile End Old Town.

Emma's husband's possible death: Jesse Mills aged 21, Sep qtr 1888 Mile End**

**Added: The deaths register of the Mile End Old Town Infirmary shows that Jesse died on 14 June 1888 aged 21 - cause of death Morbus Cordis.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Can't find two of these people
« Reply #11 on: Monday 24 July 17 16:31 BST (UK) »
School records for "Jess. Wm." Mills show that he was admitted to Dr Barnardo's School, Tower Hamlets on 22 June 1896.  His birthdate was given as 2.8.88 - so a few weeks after his father's death.  Parents named as Jess. & Emma.  Abode: 26 Elsa St.  Previous school: Ben Jonson.   He finally left the school on 13 July 1900.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Can't find two of these people
« Reply #12 on: Monday 24 July 17 16:52 BST (UK) »
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Denham [Hertford & London], Carter [Somerset], Francis, Badger [Pembroke, Glamorgan]

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Re: Can't find two of these people
« Reply #13 on: Monday 24 July 17 16:56 BST (UK) »
Numbers of children mentioned on 1911 are supposed to relate to the current marriage so should not show any from previous marriages.  People do get confused though  ;D
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Re: Can't find two of these people
« Reply #14 on: Monday 24 July 17 17:15 BST (UK) »
I think you are correct Rosie - not checked all but think I have found at least 3 deaths for children with Emma.
Denham [Hertford & London], Carter [Somerset], Francis, Badger [Pembroke, Glamorgan]

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Re: Can't find two of these people
« Reply #15 on: Monday 24 July 17 17:16 BST (UK) »
As well as the three children I have already mentioned other possible McPherson/Knox children were
William 1892 (Poplar) - died same qtr
Sarah 1902 (West Ham)
Mary Ann Lily Helena 1904 (Mile End)
Henry Albert 1906 (West Ham)
Thomas 1909 (West Ham)

still looking in case there are more
I deleted Mary Bernie as it was totally wrong  ::)
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Re: Can't find two of these people
« Reply #16 on: Monday 24 July 17 21:40 BST (UK) »
Sorry just got home from work, to see all your replies.
 Emma knox was married to a Jesse mills before she married Fredrick, they had a child Jesse William Mills.
She then married Frederick on 10 Nov 1889. I'm unsure as to who Fred married before emma. I personally thought it was Agnes Pegram. But my mums cousin seems to have a Sophia Emma which I'm not sure that is right or where she got this info.
The children I have found belonging to Fred and Emma are....
William McPherson 1893-?
Edwin McPherson 1895-1949
Robert William McPherson 1897-1898
Emma McPherson 1900-?
Sarah McPherson 1902-?
Mary Ann Lilian Helena McPherson 1904-1983
Henry Albert McPherson 1906-1909
Thomas McPherson 1909-1979
Theresa McPherson 1912-?

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Re: Can't find two of these people
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 25 July 17 08:20 BST (UK) »
There were 2 Williams one in 1892 died same qtr other was born 1893
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